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Old 09-27-2016, 12:03 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Originality is not required and Daewin is not some infallable authority that needs to be upheld in spite of new infomation that demonstrates faults in the way that so many treat the Bible. He was the first to synthsize and coherently present a theory that accounted for many phenomena present in the world. The basic idea has been proven over and over, and adjustments to the knowledge of the process have been made as necessary and as the standard model for the progress of science.

What is amazing is that there are so many who can't see this, blinded by their impossible task of supporting a ludicrous position on the nature of the Bible.
Why don't you amaze us all and present the evidence that proves the basic idea.

 
Old 09-27-2016, 12:06 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Oddly enough, not a single practicing biologist is aware of these amazing discoveries.

When will you receive your Nobel Prize?
Of course there is. They are called creation biologists. They work in real science not in occult theology. If you will check what the Nobel prizes have been awarded for, you will find that in every case it was for something proved. Not one has ever been awarded for an opinion.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Then why is it continually uses as evidence of evolution?
rhe point is that it is not an addition, but is integral to the theory.

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His explanation for the lack of transitional fossils, was that in time they would be found. I guess 150 years is not long enough. If evolution was true, at least 75& of fossils would be transitional, and to date you have non, zilch, nada, zero. The fossil record points directly to how God did it---after its kind.

No need to use Darwin's words, real science speaks volumes that reject evolution.
In point of fact EVERY fossil is "transitional." You confuse the fact that each one shows a discrete species at one point in evolution with the idea that each species is changing. ANY one example of a species is going to be whole and complete, only showing transition by comparison to previous models in the development of that species. Try to understand this and a LOT of your confusion will be explained.

REAL science does not reject evolution, it only refines our understanding of the process. Debunking a theory of a process within evolution is not debunking evolution, it is adding to our understanding of it. You would know this idf you were not so desperately clinging to an irrational concept of the nature of the Bible.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 12:15 PM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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my understanding is that it is not understood why we are evolving so quickly, not whether or not we are evolving. You have practically nothing in common with the common man of even 500 years ago.
Of course we do. We have 2 arm, 2 legs, 2 eyes, a heart, a kidney, etc. The list goes on and one. We have the ability to speak, write and read, which apes do not have.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 12:16 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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present the evidence that proves the basic idea.
you might search "super genes." But i don't propagate creation as evolution either, per se. So it depends upon what one is trying to make evolution do, i guess. You are evolving, right now, iow.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 12:19 PM
 
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Lists of transitional intermediates are provided. The video isn't long, but it does answer your questions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfoje7jVJpU
A picture of different fish is not evidence of anything except that there are some separate and distinct species of fish.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 12:22 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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Of course we do. We have 2 arm, 2 legs, 2 eyes, a heart, a kidney, etc. The list goes on and one. We have the ability to speak, write and read, which apes do not have.
i do not mean to imply that you have changed specie, but that you have evolved nonetheless, per Darwin. The recent discovery of the likely evolution of dogs is also instructive. Connecting us to apes i am not interested in, either. Although i could present a Scriptural interpretation of the creation in Genesis that might make you uncomfortable, "dust of the earth" being single cells, etc. Eve mating with a Neanderthal = eating the fruit, maybe. "knowing good and evil" = forebrain. Like that.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 12:26 PM
 
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A picture of different fish is not evidence of anything except that there are some separate and distinct species of fish.
You obviously didn't listen to the entire video, or you wouldn't have this question. A fossil of a fish with legs, such as the Tiktaalik, is indeed a transitional species. Simply because it doesn't fit your narrative does not make it untrue.
 
Old 09-27-2016, 12:33 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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i heard once that a human embryo evinces gills and a tail at separate stages of development, but don't know if it is true or propaganda. Searching didn't help much. Anybody?
 
Old 09-27-2016, 12:40 PM
 
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The presumption that evolution is fact is one of the greatest contrived myths of our time. It has been repeated so long and often, many simply assume it is true. But,, the fact is evolution has become little more than a theology without a shred of real demonstrable, verifiable evidence:

• Every proposed “ape-man” fossil has been discredited or exposed
as a fabrication or outright hoax. Not only is all demonstrable fossil evidence missing, so is any evidence of millions of transitional species.
• The “big bang, natural selection, survival of the fittest” and other ‘bolt-on accessories designed to prop-up evolution, have failed to penetrate the rational thought barrier or explain the reality of nature, scientific evidence and the lack of explanation for where the energy, light and other resources came from in the first place.
• Hundreds of credible scientists in all fields have publicly renounced Darwinism
• No statement or part of Scripture has ever been disproved
• All actual proof overwhelming supports the Bible and God’s creation
 “Every creature reproduces after its own kind”
 DNA/Chromosome evidence proves man is a separate species
 The intricate complex design of the human body and its systems shouts “design!” – The only disagreement is by whom.

Think about it for a moment. How many people who blindly claim the “incontrovertible evidence of evolution” really understand the science? Instead, they rely on sound bytes coming out of the evolutionary community – defending an indefensible position.

The illusion of evolution is that “time magically erases the barrier between nothing and something, and between rocks and living things.” Many still cling to the illusion that “time makes impossible things possible,” because they have ruled-out God, yet still need a plausible explanation for their own existence!
If you don’t believe me, here are just a few quotes from reputable, credible scientists who are not necessarily Christians:

Evolution is one of the greatest deceits in the history of Science
• “I believe that one day the Darwinian myth will be ranked the greatest deceit in the history of science”
Soren Lovtrup --Biologist, Scientist, ‘Treatise on Theoretical Biology’

Respectable scientists are defecting from the evolutionist camp
“A growing number of respectable scientists are defecting from the evolutionist camp ..Moreover, for the most part these ‘experts’ have abandoned Darwinism, not on the basis of religious faith or biblical persuasions, but on strictly scientific grounds, and in some instances, regretfully.”
Wolfgang Smith - Scientist at Bell Laboratories; Mathematics Professor at MIT, UCLA and Oregon State

Darwinist vigilantes disparage real science
“Darwinist vigilantes use the Internet to attack those they find guilty of promoting the heresy of intelligent design. They call themselves “howler monkeys.” Milton says, “The effects of the howler monkeys of the Internet are profoundly damaging to academic freedom of expression, whoever their current victim happens to be.”
Richard Milton --Geologist, Journalist and design engineer and a member of Mensa; (Claims to have no religious faith)

Lack of a fossil record contradicts verifiable Darwinian evolution
“If life progressed by an accumulation of small changes, as they say it has, the fossil record should reflect its flow, the dead stacked up in barely separated strata. But for well over 150 years, the dead have been remarkably diffident about confirming Darwin’s theory. Their bones lie suspended in the sands of time-theromorphs and therapsids and things that must have gibbered and then squeaked; but there are gaps in the graveyard, places where there should be intermediate forms but where there is nothing instead.”
David Berlinski -- Mathematician; Molecular Biologist; (Secular Jew)

• “The improbability involved in generating even one bacterium is so large that it reduces all considerations of time and space to nothingness. Given such odds, the time until the black holes evaporate and the space to the ends of the universe would make no difference at all. If we were to wait, we would truly be waiting for a miracle”
Robert Shapiro—Harvard Phd; Professor Emeritus and Chemistry Research Scientist (NYU)

Even Charles Darwin pointed out the fallacy of presenting a fully developed human species with no evidence of any transitional forms.

"Why, if species have descended from other species by fine graduation, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms? Why is not all nature in confusion, instead of the species being, as we see them, well defined?" Charles Darwin, “Origin Of The Species”:

“Darwin's strongest critics were scientists. The theologians who criticized him objected mainly to his philosophical insistence on natural causes and his denial of design--which Princeton's Charles Hodge regarded as ‘tantamount to atheism.’ Even today, many critics of Darwinism are not religious fundamentalists. An ever-growing number of critics are credentialed scientists”
Jonathan wells - The Problem of Evidence' - Forbes, Feb. 5, 2009 Molecular biologist, author and advocate of intelligent design
The science of genetics is destroying Evolution. However those who are bound to the belief simply refuse to listen or think. They want to believe there is no God .
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