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Old 02-23-2008, 07:53 AM
 
Location: DFW area
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Default Something to think about

How Long Do We Have?

About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution
in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of
Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some
2,000 years earlier:

'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
permanent form of government.'

''A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover
they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.'' From
that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise
the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every
democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always
followed by a dictatorship.'' 'The average age of the world's greatest
civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years''
''During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the
following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy,
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage'

Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul,
Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000
Presidential election:

Number of States won by:
Gore: 19
Bush: 29

Square miles of land won by
Gore: 580,000
Bush: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by:
Gore: 127 million
Bush: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore: 13.2
Bush: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: 'In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was
mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country.
Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in
government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government
welfare...'.
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the 'complacency and apathy' phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the governmental dependency' phase. If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can say good-bye to the USA in fewer than five years.
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:54 AM
 
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Urban Legends Reference Pages: The Fall of the Athenian Republic

You may want to check your sources. A lot of that is inaccurate, most of it in fact.
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Old 02-23-2008, 09:01 AM
 
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Well urban legend or not, it's still something to think about.
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Old 02-23-2008, 09:11 AM
 
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Think about what exactly? The blatant exaggeration and misrepresentation of facts with a fictitious quote thrown in?
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Old 02-23-2008, 09:35 AM
 
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Forget it..
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Old 02-23-2008, 09:37 AM
 
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I take it you're not a christian.
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Old 02-23-2008, 10:19 AM
 
Location: New England
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I take it you're not a christian.
I am a Christian and am also wondering what that has to do with a factually wrong article?

Being a Christian, I would think makes us MORE apt to call truth truth and be humble enough to admit when we are wrong.

Don't take it personally, just please be careful where you swing that "Christian" stick...it carries a lot of responsibility with it.

Peace and Grace to you,

Jay
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Old 02-23-2008, 10:29 AM
 
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I wasn't questioning him on his beliefs based on his response to my post, but from other things he's said in other posts. Sorry it came out wrong.
Bless y'all!
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Old 02-23-2008, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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No, I am not a Christian. I am an Atheist.

It doesn't really have much to do with the article you posted though. Regardless of my beliefs or what you think of them, the article remains factually inaccurate.

The only thing thought provoking about it in my opinion is to consider the individual who wrote it initially and decided to present it as fact.

Sort of a haphazard propaganda tool I suppose.
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