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Old 01-15-2017, 05:13 PM
 
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People who's father is the devil, despite the way God loving knitted them together in the womb and gave them life, are not murdered. They are removed from this earth as God's decided their time is up. He decides when we are born and when we die. And what kind of crowns his own children will be bestowed in heaven. Those that reject him to do evil, live for a created being of his (satan) will not be allowed to do so forever. That's part of life
Like the corrupted religious leaders, they of their own free-will choices chose the Devil as their father - John 8:44
The wicked will be destroyed forever -> Psalms 92:7; Proverbs 2:21-22; Hebrews 2:14 B
The executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the Earth of the wicked - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16
( An execution is Not murder, but is justice for the sake of the righteous ones )
That will happen after the coming time of Revelation 7:14
Happen after the ' time of separation ' of Matthew 25:31-33,37

As far as when we are born and die: it is as King Solomon wrote at Ecclesiastes 9:11 B - it is just by chance,
And also we can just be foolish and die earlier - Ecclesiastes 7:17
We can also die by being at the wrong place wrong time like the people at the tower of Siloam - Luke 13:4-5
So, since it is Not a governing fate, then we best obey stop signs and stop lights.
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Old 01-15-2017, 05:21 PM
 
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There were a few hundred thousand "martyred" in the mid 1990s.
Don't remember which was which between the Hutus and Tutsis, but Rwanda was/is a predominately Christian country so it was mostly Christians martrying other Christians.
How do we keep score for that event?
Was it genuine ' wheat ' Christians, or rather the fake ' weed/tares ' Christians who did such murdering ?
Remember: Jesus said MANY would ' come in his name ' but prove false at Matthew 7:21-23

Think too about the world wars: so-called Christians of one country killed so-called Christians of another country all at the behest of their political governments.
Clergy even using the pulpit as a recruiting station so parents would sacrifice their young on the Altar of War as it that was the same as the Altar of God.
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Old 01-15-2017, 07:34 PM
 
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God gives life to us. And just as freely as he breathed life into us, he can breathe life out of us.

God created the concept and definition of murder, God is truth.

So this doesn't fit with the definition of murder.


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I've done Hospice care. I saw my Uncle depart in this manner where his breath was just removed. It was about one second long, not gasping but where he breathed in and left us. No agony. Just a peaceful departing. God did not murder him. He just took him away as his time on earth was coming to a close.

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Not sure what the passing of your dear uncle has to do with God ordering eh murder of INNOCENT WOMEN and CHILDREN?
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:14 PM
 
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Was it genuine ' wheat ' Christians, or rather the fake ' weed/tares ' Christians who did such murdering ?
Remember: Jesus said MANY would ' come in his name ' but prove false at Matthew 7:21-23

Think too about the world wars: so-called Christians of one country killed so-called Christians of another country all at the behest of their political governments.
Clergy even using the pulpit as a recruiting station so parents would sacrifice their young on the Altar of War as it that was the same as the Altar of God.


I suspect that the fake Christians probably thought they were the real ones. Seems that that is the way of the world particularly with those who think their way of thinking is the only true way,
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:06 AM
 
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I can't honestly say what their relationship was with God. But the fact is, they were killed for claiming the name of Christ.
They wouldn't have been killed if they had claimed the name of Quetzal-quatel in the same exact way on the same exact circumstances? Doubtful.
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:08 AM
 
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If you would like to object to the content of the article posted, then do it. I'm going to take what it says as legitimate until proven otherwise.
Interesting decision. And also a very corrupt and fallible human one.

"I'm saying it's legitimate without enough evidence until proven otherwise" ... the hell?
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:31 AM
 
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I can't honestly say what their relationship was with God. But the fact is, they were killed for claiming the name of Christ.
that is like saying 80% of all American troops killed in action are martyrs since they too claim Christianity...
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:33 AM
 
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Christians always look at things from one side only. We don't know both sides of the story. Even some of the very early Christians could have very possibly done bad things inspired by their faith, which have caused them to be viewed as "martyrs" today.

Today, evangelicals seem like angry and bitter people who could inspire violence.
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