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Old 01-18-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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God don`t care if His children are rich ....... He only cares if they are covetous , or greedy, or proud of their things , which would make them not of need for God if all their needs are fulfilled .....
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Old 01-18-2017, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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God don`t care if His children are rich ....... He only cares if they are covetous , or greedy, or proud of their things , which would make them not of need for God if all their needs are fulfilled .....
Well you must have missed the scriptures posted above about earthly riches being a snare.
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Old 01-18-2017, 02:08 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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God prospered men such as Job, Abraham, David, and Solomon with great wealth. God is not against material prosperity. Jesus never said that you must live in poverty. Peter maintained his fishing business and kept his house. Zaccheus said he would give half of his possessions to the poor (Luke 19:8-9). Jesus didn't tell him that he must give away everything except what he needed to live. John the Baptist was not requiring a strict communal life like the Qumran community practiced when he said that "The man who has two tunics is to share with him who has none; and he who has food is to do likewise (Luke 3:11).

Asceticism is not a part of the Christian life and is not commanded. Share with those in need, but Jesus never commanded the believer to live on the bare necessities.
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Right.

The Rich Young Man
…23Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” 25When the disciples heard this they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”

Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, sell what you own. Give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then follow me!” When the young man heard this, he went away sad because he owned a lot of property.
1 Timothy 6:9-10 But people who are trying to get rich fall into temptation. They are trapped by many stupid and harmful passions that plunge people into ruin and destruction. The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. Some have wandered away from the faith and have impaled themselves with a lot of pain because they made money their goal.
I assume that when you said ''right'' you were being sarcastic. As I pointed out in post #33, Jesus' reply to the man was designed to demonstrate that no one can obtain salvation by their own efforts, on the basis of their own righteousness. Jesus did not command that anyone must give away their money in order to obtain eternal life. Jesus knew the rich man would not be able to sell what he owned. We are not told what if any further contact that rich man had with Jesus, but if he was to obtain eternal salvation it had to be through faith alone in Christ alone. Not by obeying the ten commandments or by giving his money away which wasn't even one of the ten commandments.
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Old 01-18-2017, 02:12 PM
 
Location: USA
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My responsibility it to tell Americans, it is high time to repent because the time is short and those who don't give a damn about the horrible things we have done as a nation both at home and around the globe are simply in denial of the truth.
I can appreciate your passion. To me, you seem to be lumping all people who are enjoying the use of material things at whatever level you deem unholy, into one big "don't give a damn" heap, and I don't think demonizing people who have material wealth is helpful. Regardless of how much money a person has, some are generous and some aren't. Heaping condemnation on people for not being generous isn't going to change them. God/love changes people; not condemnation.

aisi
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Old 01-18-2017, 02:37 PM
 
Location: On a road heaven bound !
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I can appreciate your passion. To me, you seem to be lumping all people who are enjoying the use of material things at whatever level you deem unholy, into one big "don't give a damn" heap, and I don't think demonizing people who have material wealth is helpful. Regardless of how much money a person has, some are generous and some aren't. Heaping condemnation on people for not being generous isn't going to change them. God/love changes people; not condemnation.

aisi

"As I See It"

AISI- as it should incidentally
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Old 01-18-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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And yet God blessed Job (not once but twice), Abraham and King David with riches during their life, and considered them all favorably.
What do fictional stories have to do with the prophets of Israel or the teachings of Jesus?
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NADA
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Old 01-18-2017, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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What do fictional stories have to do with the prophets of Israel or the teachings of Jesus?
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Old 01-18-2017, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Wow, tell that to Jesus who went about healing all who were sick.

I guess you disagree with that part of the preamble to the Constitution about the right to LIFE, LIBERTY, and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS. They are lofty words for a country that bought and sold human beings and held them as work prisoners. That's a very disgusting little part of American history. If the slaves didn't work hard enough or tried to escape, they got terrible beatings. Then during the Civil Rights Revolution, many were killed by police. Even in this century, being black makes leaving one's home dangerous. Surely the wealthy would not want to subject human beings to slavery to gain wealth for themselves, right?

I would also like to add that Monday was the commemoration day of Martin Luther King Jr. I wonder how many here have ever listened to his speeches or know how his life ended.
What proof do you have Jesus did these things?

The right to life does not constitute forced redistribution. Forced redistribution is a new concept held by socialist and communist.
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Old 01-18-2017, 06:50 PM
 
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What proof do you have Jesus did these things?
The right to life does not constitute forced redistribution. Forced redistribution is a new concept held by socialist and communist.
What is sad is that force is even needed.
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Old 01-18-2017, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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What is sad is that force is even needed.
And that those in need are despised. This thread has been a real eye opener.
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