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The angels in Revelation were described in the beginning of the book as being very beautiful and holy creatures. But then something happened. Something that caused silence in heaven for a period of time. Then all those angels fell. Their destruction is described after that point.
My only conclusion is that it is a place for anyone who chooses to believe in religion in any form. It will fall from its original heavenly state. It will be this way for all future generations, for anyone choosing to follow religious faith in any form.
That is how religious faith is an eternal place of torment, literally.
That half hour of silence in heaven will occur (it's a future event) when Jesus breaks the seventh seal during the Tribulation (Rev. 8:1).
The fallen angels fell in the past. Satan fell most likely before the creation of man and persuaded many of the angels to side with him. They still have access to heaven at the moment, but at the midpoint of the Tribulation they will be permanently banned from heaven as stated in Revelation 12:7-9.
Who's in hell? You probably have loved ones who have died, perhaps who were never believers. Do you ever think about who's in the hell you were taught by the modern church to believe in? Do you believe all the people of other faiths who have died are in hell? All the Native Indians? All the Hindus? All the Jews? All the Muslims? All the Buddhists? All the Agnostics?
Basically, the answer is that some of these may be in a temporary hell-like state, but it wouldn't be just because they weren't part of the "right" faith during their lifetimes. And it wouldn't need to be a permanent state for any of them.
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Before taking up the Bible, I sincerely believed that God graded on a curve; i.e. only the really bad people went to hell; but later on learned from Christ that the majority of humanity is on a road to hell rather than the minority. In other words; most people have not, do not, and will not, make it to safety when they pass on.
● Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, master, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
● Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
● Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.
Webster's defines "many" as consisting of, or amounting to, a large but indefinite number; while "few" is defined as consisting of, or amounting to, only a small number; viz: relative to many then, few is the lesser. Bear with me while I flesh this out.
According to the US Census Bureau: as of Jan 28, 2017 @ 10:48 am New York Time, the resident population in the United States was approximately 324,445,676 with a death rate of approximately one every 11 seconds; which translates to an average of 7,855 American deaths of all ages, races, and genders during just one 24-hour calendar day.
According to 2009 US Census data; roughly 27.3% of America's daily deaths are under the age of 19, which would indicate that approximately 5,710 of the current daily death rate of 7,855 per 24 hours are adults.
Giving the "many" the benefit of the doubt by limiting their maximum percentage to 51%, would indicate a minimum of 2,912 American adults transferring to perdition every day: which translates to roughly 121 per hour.
That's a very conservative estimate as Christ didn't really specify exact percentages to represent the quantities of "few" and "many". But just think: by the time CBS completes its half hour evening news report, a bare-bones minimum of 60 Americans become new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld.
Using the ratio of 2,912 condemned souls per 324,445,676 population: computing the number of condemned souls worldwide from a currently estimated global population of 7,368,186,095 people, would suggest something like 66,132 new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld every 24 hours; which translates to approximately 2,755 souls every sixty minutes on the clock.
That rate would fill the 51,800 seats of the new Yankee Stadium to capacity in roughly 18 hours and 48 minutes. In other words: if the world's daily number of condemned souls started filing into the stadium at 06:00 am this morning, then by 12:48 am tonight, the stadium would be full to capacity.
Christmas and New Year are even worse. A study done of 26 years of death certificates shows that coronary fatalities are, on average, 11.9% higher on those days than any other days of the year; with non-heart deaths spiking to 12.2% higher.
Traditional Christianity's hell never closes; no, not at all: it's open for business 24/7/365 nonstop and indifferent to global warming, Wall Street crashes, massive layoffs, outsourcing, high school shootings, terrorism, tsunamis, earthquakes, nuclear meltdowns, air, water, and soil pollution, freeway pile-ups, brown-outs, threatened species, gasoline prices, student debt, GMO, trade deficits, protests, Federal debt, factory recalls, overpopulation, desertification, genocides, revolutions, civil wars, acid rain, road rage, oil spills, conscious decoupling, ISIS, LGBT marriage, Obamacare, blood diamonds, fracking, twerking, and/or dissatisfaction with US President Donald Trump.
If traditional Christianity's perception of Jesus Christ and the hereafter is correct; then it's apparent that souls never stop cascading into the abyss in an endless procession like the unbelievable millions of poultry broilers passing annually through Tyson chicken-processing plants on their way to Wendy's, McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in the Box, Burger King, In'n'Out Burger, KFC, A&W, Arby's, Dairy Queen, Taco Bell, et al; and to supermarkets and restaurants all over the USA and wherever else Tyson vends its meats. The slaughtering and the butchering never stop.
Before taking up the Bible, I sincerely believed that God graded on a curve; i.e. only the really bad people went to hell; but later on learned from Christ that the majority of humanity is on a road to hell rather than the minority. In other words; most people have not, do not, and will not, make it to safety when they pass on...
-If traditional Christianity's perception of Jesus Christ and the hereafter is correct; then it's apparent that souls never stop cascading into the abyss in an endless procession like the unbelievable millions of poultry broilers passing annually through Tyson chicken-processing plants on their way to Wendy's, McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in the Box, Burger King, In'n'Out Burger, KFC, A&W, Arby's, Dairy Queen, Taco Bell, et al; and to supermarkets and restaurants all over the USA and wherever else Tyson vends its meats. The slaughtering and the butchering never stop.
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This post will make many rethink the wisdom of taking up the bible.
I always wonder how bible-readers reconcile such beliefs as this poster's with what it says was the angel's proclamation at Jesus' birth:
"...but the angel reassured them. "Don't be afraid!" he said. "I bring you good news that will bring great joy to all people."
Do you believe God created all things for his pleasure ?. I personally can think of creating far more pleasurable things than something so deplorable as a place of eternal torment.
Do you believe God created all things for his pleasure ?. I personally can think of creating far more pleasurable things than something so deplorable as a place of eternal torment.
You're not God. And no--God did not need to create the universe for his pleasure. There is perfect fellowship in the Trinity and God does not get bored.
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Re: Who's In Hell?
