How do you view the guilt of original sin? (service, Hebrew, saved)
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Therefore be imitators of God, as His dear children.
Therefore be imitators of God, as His dear children.
Deuteronomy 9
3 Know therefore today that he who goes over before you as a consuming fire is the Lord your God. He will destroy them and subdue them before you. So you shall drive them out and make them perish quickly, as the Lord has promised you.
3 Know therefore today that he who goes over before you as a consuming fire is the Lord your God. He will destroy them and subdue them before you. So you shall drive them out and make them perish quickly, as the Lord has promised you.
So we are having a bible quoting conrtest lmao. You should trust Christ in you. Do you feel comfortable, holding folk accountable?, if you don't that is because you are imitating God.
3 Know therefore today that he who goes over before you as a consuming fire is the Lord your God. He will destroy them and subdue them before you. So you shall drive them out and make them perish quickly, as the Lord has promised you.
I felt that way about my enemies too, then Jesus Christ showed me a more excellent way.
A person known as "The Lord" would naturally be an authoritative and controlling figure, and so must be a projection of the fear issues in man. It would be natural for someone with a Lord to model a Lord in how they are - the most elementary way being the setting of rules with pass/fail criteria. By way of contrast, creativity at its highest level of functioning cannot have any rules.
Eric Ericson developed the 8 stage life cycle model for people's psychological development. The first stage for the infant is trust versus mistrust. I found his model and was interested in it due to the third stage of intimacy versus isolation, before I got married, LOL.
It seems to me that there is an issue in the balance of trust versus mistrust for those with Lord figures in their psyche. It is implicit that children don't cognisize on their level of trust or mistrust, nor do those who do not know Father, I.e. are not born from above - how could they. This means that life has a fairly simple objective - just to live. And, if we can learn to love as well, then that is an objective that most would think esteemable. ...And that is what most people who have NDE's experience on the other side - an awakening to learning and loving. Nice and simple.
I don't think our societies would ever be without rules, but the question is that if the level of love and learning increased, how would that be coigned by religious groups....
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3 Know therefore today that he who goes over before you as a consuming fire is the Lord your God. He will destroy them and subdue them before you. So you shall drive them out and make them perish quickly, as the Lord has promised you.
A person known as "The Lord" would naturally be an authoritative and controlling figure, and so must be a projection of the fear issues in man. It would be natural for someone with a Lord to model a Lord in how they are - the most elementary way being the setting of rules with pass/fail criteria. By way of contrast, creativity at its highest level of functioning cannot have any rules.
Eric Ericson developed the 8 stage life cycle model for people's psychological development. The first stage for the infant is trust versus mistrust. I found his model and was interested in it due to the third stage of intimacy versus isolation, before I got married, LOL.
It seems to me that there is an issue in the balance of trust versus mistrust for those with Lord figures in their psyche. It is implicit that children don't cognisize on their level of trust or mistrust, nor do those who do not know Father, I.e. are not born from above - how could they. This means that life has a fairly simple objective - just to live. And, if we can learn to love as well, then that is an objective that most would think esteemable. ...And that is what most people who have NDE's experience on the other side - an awakening to learning and loving. Nice and simple.
I don't think our societies would ever be without rules, but the question is that if the level of love and learning increased, how would that be coigned by religious groups....
How "freeing" it must be to have no need for "The Lord" over you. Reminds me of what Satan said with his "I will's". Creativity is not the contrast for not having "a Lord", rebellion is; which is self will, the exact opposite of the prayer of The Lord, as in, "THY WILL BE DONE", which is implicit that someone OTHER THAN YOU, is Lord over you.
Once you start drinking the kool-aide it's just a hop, skip, and a jump before you start making it yourself for others to drink, compounding your issues. Peace
How "freeing" it must be to have no need for "The Lord" over you. Reminds me of what Satan said with his "I will's". Creativity is not the contrast for not having "a Lord", rebellion is; which is self will, the exact opposite of the prayer of The Lord, as in, "THY WILL BE DONE", which is implicit that someone OTHER THAN YOU, is Lord over you.
Once you start drinking the kool-aide it's just a hop, skip, and a jump before you start making it yourself for others to drink, compounding your issues. Peace
I still have no problems with 'Thy will be done.' We obviously have a heavenly Father. Remember, the head and body exchanges we've had. I'm just not sure I'm a Trinitarian anymore - I think it was Daqq who thrust that knife in. And I don't swallow everything everyone tells me, and certainly not just what one person tells me - Christ is a many membered body after all. Plus, too many doctrines of the church are fear based, or "it's coming" but not here yet - I'm not onboard with that anymore. Bread has to be broken - no carrot dangling.
His yoke is easy and his burden is light. That isn't a controlling or authoritative figure. If you feel it is more akin to that sort of relationship, then it's a reflection of how you perceive yourself. Your gift of hearing from Him better than most is your GIFT, and gifts have no relationship to character or personality - they are unrelated to putting off and putting on, as the good book says - they are without repentance.
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