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You use that inflammatory language because you have no scriptural evidence to support your claim. It is, of course, utter nonsense. We spend considerable time, money and effort sharing the gospel.
Both Jesus and Paul tell us salvation after physical death is not possible.
PAULIE is not Jesus's equal (nor superior), likewise PAULIE is not divine..
That doesn't make sense. It either is or is not a metaphor. Please explain.
So you believe the ENTIRE WORLD was covered in water and EVERY HUMAN was killed with the exception of those on the ark? And ALL those on the ARK were righteous...
Yet after the flood, the only people who were righteous started sinning--just like the previous generation killed in the flood because they sinned...so the flood PROVED NOTHING and sin remained and then those righteous sinners on the ARK were the basis for repopulating the ENTIRE WORLD in less than 5000 years?? Not even the BUSIEST of RABBITS could have that many off spring n that length of time..
How then, mathematically and logistically, does the world repopulate to the numbers we have now based on 8 people???
So you believe the ENTIRE WORLD was covered in water and EVERY HUMAN was killed with the exception of those on the ark? And ALL those on the ARK were righteous...
Yet after the flood, the only people who were righteous started sinning--just like the previous generation killed in the flood because they sinned...so the flood PROVED NOTHING and sin remained and then those righteous sinners on the ARK were the basis for repopulating the ENTIRE WORLD in less than 5000 years?? Not even the BUSIEST of RABBITS could have that many off spring n that length of time..
How then, mathematically and logistically, does the world repopulate to the numbers we have now based on 8 people???
I was wondering how something is 99% false. That's illogical.
PAULIE is not Jesus's equal (nor superior), likewise PAULIE is not divine..
2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Peter acknowledges brother Paul in verse 15 above.
Peter also acknowledges Paul's epistles on the same level as the "other" scriptures.
So you need to ask Jesus for the answers as to why you are bothered by Paul's epistles. Trust Jesus as your Good Shepherd to help you see those answers in the King James Bible since wisdom is from the Lord.
God's holiness means most will perish, according to Jesus, because they have not believed in His name. See John 3 and Matt. 7.
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Let's examine our different perceptions of the scripture noted: the clear meaning is that the souls of sinners will be destroyed. YOU believe in eternal torment and YOU filter the idea through your dearly held doctrine. I believe that people will suffer the consequences of their actions, but will have the opportunity to learn and grow, otherwise such consequences are nothing more than vicious revenge. How do we differ in our denial of the clear meaning of the relevant scripture?
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
You use that inflammatory language because you have no scriptural evidence to support your claim. It is, of course, utter nonsense. We spend considerable time, money and effort sharing the gospel.
Either you missed the point I was making or you are avoiding the consequences of the literal meaning of the scriptures you cited, which talk about the destruction of the soul. The question is whether you believe in annihilation or eternal torment.
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Both Jesus and Paul tell us salvation after physical death is not possible.
No, neither one does. This has been addressed before and again you INTERPRET scripture through the lens of your doctrine rather that the Spirit OR the literal words of the Bible.
2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Peter acknowledges brother Paul in verse 15 above.
Peter also acknowledges Paul's epistles on the same level as the "other" scriptures.
So you need to ask Jesus for the answers as to why you are bothered by Paul's epistles. Trust Jesus as your Good Shepherd to help you see those answers in the King James Bible since wisdom is from the Lord.
I am bothered because Paulie is a FRAUD and a FALSE TEACHER who is venerated ABOVE the status of Christ by EVANGELICALS...
And PETER also denied Christ THREE TIMES.....
So both your character witnesses are FLAWED and epic LIARS and COWARDS....
Peter, who walked with Jesus, confirmed Paul's words as gospel. In addition, Peter referred to doubters like you as "untaught and unstable".
PETER ALSO DENIED CHRIST..to save his own life...THREE TIMES...is that what you would do??
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You use that inflammatory language because you have no scriptural evidence to support your claim. It is, of course, utter nonsense. We spend considerable time, money and effort sharing the gospel. 
