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Unread 03-06-2008, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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hmmmm, the following just don't sound like heaven to me. in fact these are Jesus words.

Matthew 8:12 - But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Jesus gives a parable on hell:

Matthew 22:13 - Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

the kind of company those in hell will have:

Matthew 24:51 - And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 25:30 - And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

BOLD STATEMENT ABOUT HELL:

Luke 13:28 - There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

my goodness! all this talk about hell from such a reliable source as Jesus and his inspired word makes me run harder for heaven.
Hi CS,
How strange that none of the scriptures you quoted say anything about Sheol or Gahenna. Yet you take their meaning to refer to something you term 'hell'.

Maybe you should read the link in the OP, it may help you in your studies.

blessings,
-byron
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Unread 03-07-2008, 04:25 AM
 
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Hi CS,
How strange that none of the scriptures you quoted say anything about Sheol or Gahenna. Yet you take their meaning to refer to something you term 'hell'.

Maybe you should read the link in the OP, it may help you in your studies.

blessings,
-byron
Excellent advise, Byron! The fact is that gehenna was never once referred to by the apostle Paul who preached the "whole" counsel of God in at least 1/2 of the New Covenant. Nor was gehenna ever mentioned by the disciple who leaned upon the Master's bosom, St. John the beloved. Why? Surely they understood the significance of gehenna and sh@/owl, and tartaroo and hades? You bet they did!
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Unread 03-07-2008, 05:23 AM
 
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The fact is that gehenna was never once referred to by the apostle Paul who preached the "whole" counsel of God in at least 1/2 of the New Covenant. Nor was gehenna ever mentioned by the disciple who leaned upon the Master's bosom, St. John the beloved.
There are four (4) words in Hebrew and Greek that are all translated as hell in the K.J.V. Those four words are sh@'owl, hades, gehenna, and tartaroo.

Search= Hell=

HERE

Number of times the Apostle Paul speaks of hell? ("Eternal" or otherwise)

Thirteen Epistles: References to hell= 0

Number of times the Apostle Luke mentions hell?

Twice in Acts (both in reference to Jesus Christ not being left in hell)

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Because You will not leave my soul in hell/hades, neither will You suffer Your Holy One to suffer corruption. Acts 2:27
Please Note

Hell/hades and corruption are linked.

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...He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that He had not been abondoned to the place of death (hades), neither did His flesh undergo decay.
Hades, the place of death, & decay of the flesh/body are linked together.

Number of times the Apostle James speaks of hell?

One (1) -in reference to the tongue.-

Number of times the Apostle John on Patmos speaks of hell?

Four (4)

Number of times St. John speaks of hell within his gospel?=

Zero (0)

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I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
The final chapter on Hell=

And death and hell were cast into the Lake of Theos Pur (the Limne of Theos). This IS the second death.
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Unread 03-08-2008, 06:47 AM
 
Location: NC
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all this talk about hell from such a reliable source as Jesus and his inspired word makes me run harder for heaven.

Part 6 - Gehenna

God bless.
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