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look up the definition of christianity will ya before posting in the Christianity forum asking where "it claims" to spring from. . It will help you immensely regarding discussions.
It claims to spring from Judaism...
You're very welcome although I don't remember it but glad it was helpful
Anyhow to your side question-there will just be question after question from you until you find a bible based church who can provide you a Christian (disciple of Lord Jesus Christ) to witness to you the plan of salvation.
Faith comes by hearing so this forum isn't the correct venue to really help but I'll attempt it
Jesus was known as the second Adam. Only because he shared as being perfect in the flesh (sinless), during the short time he was on earth. The WORD became FLESH,(John 1:14) and flesh without a sin nature (1John:3:5 yet without compromising his Deity. Jesus always was, he existed in heaven with GOD before he was birthed of the virgin mary. Just as GOD always was, JESUS always was as part of the Godhead. All throughout the bible this is unmistakable. Meaning you cannot read it an interpret anything different (unless you have reading or learning disabilities of course). The #1 tactic of Cults, non christian religions, is changing Lord Jesus' diet
Every other being was CREATED
Lord Jesus came down from heaven to atone for our sins on the cross. We were bought for a price. Prior there were animal sacrifices which atoned for individual sins, including a spotless lamb (yes Jesus is also called the spotless lamb of God-1Peter 1:18-20) and goats. But it never saved people from being damned for their sins. All of their sins were nailed to the cross with Christ, and when he rose again, all sins for those who belong to him, were forgiven. Hence our new birth. For Christians, we died with Christ on that cross and rose with him as a new creation. A new birth,
Jesus had to identify with whatever bloodline he was birthed into as an infant. Here is his family tree https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...+1&version=MSG - Moses is similar in that respect though Moses was just a man (a created being) he identified most of his life with a different bloodline he understood he was birthed into
A foundational understanding Christianity is important because it offers the means to salvation. Try to find a bible based church which teaches the basic principals regarding Christians. Acts 11 is a good read to start on your own. To understand how Diciples of Lord Jesus became known as Christians.
Your side-note questions seem easily answered by just googling but I wanted to get you going on the basic foundation for your own salvation. A forum isn't the way to salvation. You need to find a bible based church and get paired up with a Christian A.K.A Disciple of Lord Jesus Christ so you can be saved.
I can't help much beyond what I've posted except to direct you to find a bible based Christian Church. You need a Disciple of Christ to help teach you the teachings of Lord Jesus and plan of salvation. Feel free to send me a message with your town and state and I'll assist you with locating a good bible based church. I wish you the best of luck
*whew* sorry for getting sidetracked here. Now back to the OP!!!
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Eternal Hell
And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name (Revelation 14:11)
People are assigned an immortal body at death, hence why the smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever. Never to be quenched because the assigned eternal body isn't like our fleshly body which would normally be burned up and the fire eventually goes out. Sort of like how the worm "does not die" and the fire "is not quenched" This is also why the Rich man wanted Lazarus, who floated about in Abrahams bosom, to warm his family about this place of hellfire while he begged for some water to cool his tongue. He was told that his family wouldn't believe it anyhow, even if someone arose from the dead! And of all of the good things The Rich man got on earth (and horded, causing Lazarus to starve to death) and now Lazarus n turn, eternally is experiencing the good things like being eternally comforted- Luke 16:19-31
And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life (Matthew 25:46).
Mark 9 Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe to stumble, it would be better for him if, with a heavy millstone hung around his neck, he had been cast into the sea. 43“If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire, 44where THEIR WORM DOES NOT DIE, AND THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED.
Appreciate all the candid answers.......very interesting.....
Answering my own question: I richly deserved hell if judged on my own merits.....all are fallen and I'm part of the all.....I'm destined to be in heaven only through the grace and mercy of Jesus who loved me enough to die and pay for my sins when I believed not just IN Him, but believed He was dead and buried and rose to new life on the third day. A free gift from the almighty CREATOR of the universe...........
Eternal Hell
And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name (Revelation 14:11)
People are assigned an immortal body at death, hence why the smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever. Never to be quenched because the assigned eternal body isn't like our fleshly body which would normally be burned up and the fire eventually goes out. Sort of like how the worm "does not die" and the fire "is not quenched" This is also why the Rich man wanted Lazarus, who floated about in Abrahams bosom, to warm his family about this place of hellfire while he begged for some water to cool his tongue. He was told that his family wouldn't believe it anyhow, even if someone arose from the dead! And of all of the good things The Rich man got on earth (and horded, causing Lazarus to starve to death) and now Lazarus n turn, eternally is experiencing the good things like being eternally comforted- Luke 16:19-31
And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life (Matthew 25:46).
Mark 9 Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe to stumble, it would be better for him if, with a heavy millstone hung around his neck, he had been cast into the sea. 43“If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire, 44where THEIR WORM DOES NOT DIE, AND THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED.
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Omg. You've really drunk the kool aid here Nancy. You need to do a search on whether they had the words eternal, eternity, forever, etc. In original language of the Bible. The shortish answer is there was never any concept of infinite duration in language - it is a fairly recent invention. The original words were olam (Hebrew) and aion (Greek) and they mean age-during - a span of time appropriate to an age. For context, the aion of a man's life was known to be 70 years. So, then you have the biblical end of the ages, after which Father will be all in all, ....and it changes the whole damn story, from the one most, including me, swallowed in their early faith years.
John Wesley Hanson's thesis on tentmaker is what turned me.
Omg. You've really drunk the kool aid here Nancy. You need to do a search on whether they had the words eternal, eternity, forever, etc. In original language of the Bible. The shortish answer is there was never any concept of infinite duration in language - it is a fairly recent invention. The original words were olam (Hebrew) and aion (Greek) and they mean age-during - a span of time appropriate to an age. For context, the aion of a man's life was known to be 70 years. So, then you have the biblical end of the ages, after which Father will be all in all, ....and it changes the whole damn story, from the one most, including me, swallowed in their early faith years.
John Wesley Hanson's thesis on tentmaker is what turned me.
I will study this, thank you.
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although I don't remember it but glad it was helpful
