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View Poll Results: Will all humans go to heaven where we will all be the same?
Yes 1 3.23%
No 22 70.97%
There are 3 sections of Heaven and Everyone will not be the same 5 16.13%
What kind of God blesses one human over the other? There is no special groups. 4 12.90%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-24-2017, 10:29 PM
 
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Of Course.


People say I am the salt of the earth, meh, I never saw that.


I have the heart of an ancient Dane, and a natural instinct of an animal.
Your breaking.
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Old 05-24-2017, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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You will be judged by you and I don't see you wanting to take from anyone. I don't believe you would feel good about yourself is you wronged someone else.
LOL, I can't even own anything or have money really. One time I got a 3000 dollar check and just for a second, I started liking the feeling and then I was so disgusted that I had to go and get rid of it.


It is not easy being me, when I was a child I gave everything away and never stopped. This was a mental disorder maybe, I don't know. A guilt about me that I cannot escape from, a torturous never ending guilt full of remorse that makes me occupy my mind just trying not to be me. I guess I had a very traumatic childhood that left me having no self worth at all, and this is from a parent teaching a child the bible, accept the child believed what he heard.


Nahh, I could never take anything from anyone, and I can have nothing even if somebody handed me a fortune, but I believe this was manufactured in me, not something that comes natural.
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Old 05-24-2017, 11:59 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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LOL, I can't even own anything or have money really. One time I got a 3000 dollar check and just for a second, I started liking the feeling and then I was so disgusted that I had to go and get rid of it.


It is not easy being me, when I was a child I gave everything away and never stopped. This was a mental disorder maybe, I don't know. A guilt about me that I cannot escape from, a torturous never ending guilt full of remorse that makes me occupy my mind just trying not to be me. I guess I had a very traumatic childhood that left me having no self worth at all, and this is from a parent teaching a child the bible, accept the child believed what he heard.


Nahh, I could never take anything from anyone, and I can have nothing even if somebody handed me a fortune, but I believe this was manufactured in me, not something that comes natural.
I can relate to the trauma of being fed a hypocritical interpretation of the bible at a young age, you have no world experience to gauge if you are being told the truth or not, so you believe, sometimes you question but then you get told don't question otherwise you will go to hell....I started questioning things when I was about 13 I guess

One of the things that didn't make sense to me was while we are told forgive your enemies as your Father forgives his ..... except that he actually tortures his for eternity
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Old 05-25-2017, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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except that he actually tortures his for eternity
Show me a scripture about hell and how everyone will burn for eternity.

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Old 05-25-2017, 01:03 AM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Show me a scripture about hell and how everyone will burn for eternity.
Sorry I probably didn't word that right but what I was meaning was that was what I had been told when I was growing up .... based on revelations lake of fire. I could see that there was a hypocrisy there.

I left the church when I was around 15, and suffered anxiety/depression for many years because of the fear which I had internalized
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Old 05-25-2017, 02:57 AM
 
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In John 6:40 Jesus says ......``And this is the will of Him that sent me , that every one which sees the Son , and believes on Him , may have everlasting life, and I will raise Him up at the last day`` ...... See people must see Jesus and believe on Him
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Old 05-25-2017, 03:06 AM
 
Location: New Zealand
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In John 6:40 Jesus says ......``And this is the will of Him that sent me , that every one which sees the Son , and believes on Him , may have everlasting life, and I will raise Him up at the last day`` ...... See people must see Jesus and believe on Him
And all will see him....some will take longer than others though
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Old 05-25-2017, 04:27 AM
 
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Doesn't say that.. John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Mark 9:47-48 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


Matthew 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


God will do justice as a Righteous Judge, Hannibal, if Hitler would go unpunished there would not be any justice done. Yes God is gracious aswell, but not apart from faith in Jesus Christ, because He put the punishment for our sins on Jesus Christ, and afaik Hitler never repented and put his trust in Jesus.
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Old 05-25-2017, 05:19 AM
 
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Animal?

Animal?
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Old 05-25-2017, 05:36 AM
 
Location: New England
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God will do justice as a Righteous Judge, Hannibal, if Hitler would go unpunished there would not be any justice done. Yes God is gracious aswell, but not apart from faith in Jesus Christ, because He put the punishment for our sins on Jesus Christ, and afaik Hitler never repented and put his trust in Jesus.
The more i think about "believe i was punished for you and repent or be punished" the more ridiculous it sounds.
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