is masterbation a sin? (sinners, translation, confess, theist)

[famlife]

according to the catholic faith it is, in and of itself, a sin. if you want to know why, look it up. i'm not so good at explaining theology to people. but look it up if you're curious... their reasoning makes sense to me

[Cspan1986]

I try my hardest to stay committed to not sinning, but this subject I was baffled with, so I researched it and found that God does speak of how masterbating is a sin, but he refers to it as "sensual pleasure" and I know it is in the book of Romans, but I dont remember what chapter. However, if u look up the definition of sensuality it means, "unrestrained indulgence in sensual pleasures." So, whether your masterbating with or without lust for whatever reason, its a sensual pleasure with unrestrained indulgence. This is why masterbating, with or without lust in mind, is a sin.

I KNOW, I KNOW, I WAS DEPRESSED FOR A MINUTE WHEN I FOUND OUT TOO.

[forest beekeeper]

Originally Posted by Cspan1986

I try my hardest to stay committed to not sinning, but this subject I was baffled with, so I researched it and found that God does speak of how masterbating is a sin, but he refers to it as "sensual pleasure" and I know it is in the book of Romans, but I dont remember what chapter. However, if u look up the definition of sensuality it means, "unrestrained indulgence in sensual pleasures." So, whether your masterbating with or without lust for whatever reason, its a sensual pleasure with unrestrained indulgence. This is why masterbating, with or without lust in mind, is a sin.

I KNOW, I KNOW, I WAS DEPRESSED FOR A MINUTE WHEN I FOUND OUT TOO.

When God does not like something He lays it out for everyone to see. God sets it in clear language. Often the sins of the Bible are referred to many times, just to make them clear exactly what they are.

The Old Testament is our 'School Master'. It teaches us the Law, the clear letter of what is right and wrong. The New testament shows us liberty. Once you understand what is clearly right / wrong, now we know the heart of God and we have the spirit to guide us.

The New Testament nowhere gives us any new Laws.

Every sin referred to in the New Testament, was already present and explained in the Old Testament.

So you say that in this one case, it was not a sin during the Old Testament era when sins be defined. Rather it only appears in the New Testament, when we are at liberty?

This interpretation does not mesh with the structure of God's Word, contextually.

To manipulate the wording to force it into such a meaning, is not proper.

When interpreting the Word of God, all must fit together. There can be no contradictions.

[little elmer]

I believe we are made of spirit and soul, with the soul containing all the emotional aspects of the flesh. While the soul wars with the spirit, the spirit must put the soul under submission. This includes the lusts of the flesh - the "sensual" feelings - and ultimately the sense of "self".

[forest beekeeper]

Originally Posted by little elmer

I believe we are made of spirit and soul, with the soul containing all the emotional aspects of the flesh. While the soul wars with the spirit, the spirit must put the soul under submission. This includes the lusts of the flesh - the "sensual" feelings - and ultimately the sense of "self".

Yes that makes sense.

I was just thinking of this within the context of Christianity though.

Bless you

[little elmer]

Originally Posted by forest beekeeper

I was just thinking of this within the context of Christianity though.

Is the issue of spirit vs. flesh not within the context of Christianity?

[forest beekeeper]

Originally Posted by little elmer

Is the issue of spirit vs. flesh not within the context of Christianity?

Christianity is that belief which is taught to us via the Bible.

It is a branch onto the tree of the Hebrew peoples, God's people.

It is all about spirit, and truth.

The salvation of mankind and godliness.

To bring non-Biblical doctrines into it. To try to justify heresy by using a phrase here or a passage there, would be error.

Those things which God condemns, are clearly condemned. Those condemnation are loud and explained and repeated.

When God does not condemn something, nor can I.

Christianity is about seeking God, through His son Jesus Christ.

[bobmulk]

Fortunately, masturbation (correct spelling) does not send you to hell. Quit obsessing.

[robertpolyglot]

Originally Posted by famlife

according to the catholic faith it is, in and of itself, a sin. if you want to know why, look it up. i'm not so good at explaining theology to people. but look it up if you're curious...

This thread is still going on?

No one needs to look it up! Post #10 says very well, and puts it all into context.

I'm Catholic and can't even waste my time to think about something like this. It's that archaic, Monty Python inspired "wasted spilled seed" mentality. The Catholic church doesn't pay for the costs to raise children and some of the most dogmatic people in its flock are also the most hypocritical.

While probably not the best of habits, the wages of "whacking it" are NOT death.

[LogicIsYourFriend]

Originally Posted by Cspan1986

I try my hardest to stay committed to not sinning, but this subject I was baffled with, so I researched it and found that God does speak of how masterbating is a sin, but he refers to it as "sensual pleasure" and I know it is in the book of Romans, but I dont remember what chapter. However, if u look up the definition of sensuality it means, "unrestrained indulgence in sensual pleasures." So, whether your masterbating with or without lust for whatever reason, its a sensual pleasure with unrestrained indulgence. This is why masterbating, with or without lust in mind, is a sin.

I KNOW, I KNOW, I WAS DEPRESSED FOR A MINUTE WHEN I FOUND OUT TOO.

Moderator cut: edit If you do it discreetly, alone, in your own home, on occasion, just to relieve a bit of pressure, I don't see this as being unrestrained.