is masterbation a sin? (homosexual, Catholics, adultery, Corinthians)

[daisiesnfreckles]

Originally Posted by LogicIsYourFriend

Moderator cut: edit If you do it discreetly, alone, in your own home, on occasion, just to relieve a bit of pressure, I don't see this as being unrestrained.

Logic, I actually agree with you.

[batteredsheep]

in the first place, the "sensual pleasure" that Paul speaks of is happening outside of marriage. The closest relevance in Scripture is when you sin against your own body, you sin against the Holy Spirit whom dwells within you.

[tamTAMM]

Originally Posted by SavedByTheGrace

is masturbation a sin?

what do you guys think? any input will be appreciated.

I have an issue with masterbation, the root to the problem I am searching out.

What I don't want to happen; because of my disobedience, is my blessings being blocked. The issue is very delicate and of great importance to singles who desire marriage. We feel as if we are remaining pure until that day of wedded bliss but in fact we are grieving the Holy Spirit. Materbation IS sexual perversion. There is no escaping that point but accepting it as true may in-fact deepen your relationship with God. If your desire is a sexually fulfilled marriage how can that be when you already know how to please yourself. You leave no room for discovery and growth as a couple. I just feel that there is more to masterbation than just an idle thought. Roots and past situations condition our lives and pollute our vision in a way that distorts our reality pertaining to what God has in store for us.

[Jesse69]

Well, there was a very weird and very blessed time in my life - Sr year Hs until 3/4ths of the year was done. The sister of the hottest chick in school flirted with me and I got so pumped up I decided to be "all man and the best I can be" to get her. I also remembered a rumor saying Muhammed Ali became the boxing world champion because he abstained from sex. - So I tried not masturbating! And doing this, it seemed my life was blessed, I had more spiritual gut instincts like the Holy Spirit was telling me things in my heart, good karma / instances would happen such that I felt an Angel was taking good care of me, and i had such "great eyes" that the girls noticed!

- But that all fell apart after I realized girls played around with me and pumped me up for fun and scandalized me & etc. 2nd Runner Up Miss Teen USA was leaving her boyfriend for me; he got jealous gave my phone number to girls to call me / record the conversations / spread these conversations around school to make a fool of me. In short, I got burned big time about girls and said to myself, yeah, I can turn to crossdressing instead of girls to make me happy... and then masturbation came in my future as well as lots of bad luck and karma for doing it.

So I had a blessed time for not masturbating and during the times of frequent masturbation - bad luck / seemed like a devils curse on me / paranoia.

[june 7th]

June has intentionally done her best, has tried, has refrained, from posting what she's about to say...

She's honestly tried her best...As a female, as someone who (by profession) is supposed to "know" (or at the very least, "understand") the human psyche, who has worked with, known, and () actually been known (once upon a time...) to have loved (translation: slept with!) a most Christian man, an ex-seminarian, (who, incidentally, was the sole individual who actually made June question whether or not she actually has a soul! ) and who subsequently has lived with, been married to, has raised a child; knows her own self, embraces her own sexuality, and who has listened to more men than she cares to recall as regards this whole "topic," says to all you men out there who say and/or profess to NOT masturbate, Christian or otherwise:



June doesn't believe you.


That's all.

[Miss Blue]

June 7th perhaps they skipped the puberty years.. I raised one son and six grandsons...I know

[Jesse69]

Of course guys masturbate a lot! But as kids we insult one another for it too, like we say, "He's such a jagoff!"

[june 7th]

Originally Posted by Jesse69

Of course guys masturbate a lot! But as kids we insult one another for it too, like we say, "He's such a jagoff!"

Yeah? So what?

It's called:


"I'm human and I'm an adolescent." Or "I'm just plain human."


For the love of God, June's an "atheist," but she hardly thinks that if she found God and/or Christ tomorrow, this would be up there among the "worst" of "sins" June had to acknowledge or confess to! June is honestly sitting here thinking: "Give June a break!" For heaven sake, you want people to know your God. You want people to accept "Christ" into their lives. --Which is fine by June. But for goodness sake, don't make it harder on them!

June just wants to know, (really know) how one, simple, basically beautiful message of the NT somehow got distorted in it's "literalism," "legalism," and "fundamentalism" and it's "denominationalism" and it's "born again-ism," and it's doctine, it's dogma, such that if the likes of June even (remotely wished or wanted) to be a Christian that right out of the gate, she'd have to deny her own, (AND YOUR) own humanity?

Is sexualitly a "sin?"


June supposes that it would imply/come down to, how one defines "sin."

--But do not, -- do NOT -- tell June that in order to become a "Christian" that she needs to "accept" that which most goes against the human condition in order to find God. Sex, masturbation, human sexuality by defintinon, had to come from somewhere. Don't tell me that in His "image and likeness" sexuality, (the essence of creation,) is somehow not implied.


--We're all..."sinners."

[Oakback]

Originally Posted by june 7th

Yeah? So what?

It's called:


"I'm human and I'm an adolescent." Or "I'm just plain human."


For the love of God, June's an "atheist," but she hardly thinks that if she found God and/or Christ tomorrow, this would be up there among the "worst" of "sins" June had to acknowledge or confess to! June is honestly sitting here thinking: "Give June a break!" For heaven sake, you want people to know your God. You want people to accept "Christ" into their lives. --Which is fine by June. But for goodness sake, don't make it harder on them!

June just wants to know, (really know) how one, simple, basically beautiful message of the NT somehow got distorted in it's "literalism," "legalism," and "fundamentalism" and it's "denominationalism" and it's "born again-ism," and it's doctine, it's dogma, such that if the likes of June even (remotely wished or wanted) to be a Christian that right out of the gate, she'd have to deny her own, (AND YOUR) own humanity?

Is sexualitly a "sin?"


June supposes that it would imply/come down to, how one defines "sin."

--But do not, -- do NOT -- tell June that in order to become a "Christian" that she needs to "accept" that which most goes against the human condition in order to find God. Sex, masturbation, human sexuality by defintinon, had to come from somewhere. Don't tell me that in His "image and likeness" sexuality, (the essence of creation,) is somehow not implied.


--We're all..."sinners."

ALL of creation is "good".

Including;
Chocolate Chip Cookies
Orchids
Puppies
Humans ( but especially children )
Sexuality

AND BACON

In my experience, these gifts become "problematic" when they overshadow or injure my relationships with others.

Or in a theistic "tone", when they are contrary to charity.

[weatherologist]

Originally Posted by Oakback

ALL of creation is "good".

Including;
Chocolate Chip Cookies
Orchids
Puppies
Humans ( but especially children )
Sexuality

AND BACON

In my experience, these gifts become "problematic" when they overshadow or injure my relationships with others.

Or in a theistic "tone", when they are contrary to charity.

Oakback, you have such a way with words.

I have avoided this thread since it's conception (pun intended). Still I have not read the majority of it. I have only read the last page, prior my post. I think that Oakback and I are on the same page...

I am a happily married woman. I have 5 beautiful children. IMHO, masterbation is only a problem when it takes away from my relationship with my husband.