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12-31-2008, 11:46 AM
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The Flesh
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Originally Posted by SavedByTheGrace
is masturbation a sin?
what do you guys think? any input will be appreciated.
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The reaction of your mind it is natural and carnal things, it's just what you put in your mind and the reaction of your body or what you see,
The mind is everthing change your thinking.
Anything that is unnatural is a sin, but we are just human.
Be the New Creation.
Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Ye are circumcised. You have received that which was designed to be represented by circumcision-the putting away of sin. Philippians 3:3.
With the circumcision made without hands. That made in the heart by the renunciation of all sin. The Jewish teachers insisted on the necessity of the literal circumcision in order to salvation, (comp.Ephesians 2:11 and hence this subject is so often introduced into the writings of Paul, and he is at so much pains to show that, by believing in Christ, all was obtained which was required in order to salvation. Circumcision was an ordinance by which it was denoted that all sin was to be cut off or renounced, and that he who was circumcised was to be devoted to God and to a holy life. All this, the apostle says, was obtained by the gospel; and, consequently, they had all that was denoted by the ancient rite of circumcision. What Christians had obtained, moreover, related to the heart; it was not a mere ordinance pertaining to the flesh.
In putting off the body of the sins of the flesh. That is, in renouncing the deeds of the flesh, or becoming holy. The word "body," here, seems to be used with reference to circumcision. In that ordinance, the body of the FLESH was subjected to the rite; with Christians, it is the body of sin that is cut off.
By the circumcision of Christ. Not by the fact that Christ was circumcised, but that we have that kind of circumcision which Christ established-to wit, the renouncing of sin. The idea of the apostle here seems to be, that since we have thus been enabled by Christ to renounce sin, and to devote ourselves to God, we should not be induced, by any plausible arguments, to return to an ordinance pertaining to the flesh, as if that were needful for salvation.
(*) "Buried” with him" Romans 6:4,5
(*) "Operation” of God" Ephesians 1:19
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12-31-2008, 12:33 PM
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Masturbation, as laid out in the Catholic Catechism, is a mortal sin.
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12-31-2008, 03:17 PM
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Bees? Not in Maine
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Originally Posted by AaronK
Masturbation, as laid out in the Catholic Catechism, is a mortal sin.
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Because they do not understand Leviticus, nor do they have the ability to read the story of Onan.
It is too bad really.
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12-31-2008, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by forest beekeeper
Because they do not understand Leviticus, nor do they have the ability to read the story of Onan.
It is too bad really.
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OT, but Gen 38 is pretty wild. Judah (praise) took a girl and got her pregnant (several times?), their firstborn was named Er (how cool is that?), and all it says about him is he was wicked in the sight of the Lord, so the Lord slew him!
What'd he do, I wonder? 
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12-31-2008, 03:33 PM
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I hope masterbation is not a sin because I do it quite frequently. 
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12-31-2008, 03:44 PM
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No where in the Bible does God say masturbation is a sin, and I take the Bible over the Catholic catechism any day. The Bible is inspired by God and contains everything that we need, the catechism is not. That said, I love my catholic brothers and sisters (of which I know many), but on this subject I'd refer only to the Bible and the leading of the Holy Spirit on your heart.
I do not believe the act of masturbation is sinful. The sin can happen based on what we are watching, reading, thinking about when we masturbate. But, the act itself is neutral.
All that said, I have many wonderful conservative friends that would say that masturbation is a sin because it is a form of adultery. It is sex with some one (you) other than your spouse. While I respect them and their choice not to masturbate I think this is taking it a bit too far. But, I wanted to bring up the view as I've heard it argued.
I think it mainly depends on our motives. The key of the Christian life is to please and bring glory to the Lord as we plant seeds in others that will lead them to salvation. If we sincerely feel we are pleasing and glorifying God with our actions (and the HS generally lets us know if we are not!) than we are fine.
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12-31-2008, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cparks1000000
So, when Jesus said, "turn the other cheek", insted of "an eye for an eye" as stated in the Old Testament we are supposed to take the word of the Old testament over Jesus, Son of God. Jesus also gave new Law to us in the New Testament when he stated that no one should be divorced, although Moses, in the Old Testament, stated "If a man should want to put away his wife, let him give her a contract of divorce." Many more things were told to us during The Sermon on the Mount.
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That isn't the correct meaning of "an eye for an eye". What it means is if someone has done you harm and you want to retaliate, don't do something greater than the original offense. In other words, if someone runs over your dog for example, it isn't necessary to go kill his entire family as revenge, or burn down his house or village. Nothing greater than running over his dog, at the very most. There really wasn't ever any requirement to retaliate at all, it was just common practice in the old days, and often way out of proportion. By Jesus's time things had mellowed a little bit, with more things regulated by law and custom. He was just saying the same thing even more emphatically, like "just let it go, Man!" The old law was more like "don't get carried away". I think the intent was the same, to teach us to treat one another better than was typical of other cultures and religions.
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12-31-2008, 09:55 PM
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Yes and a most serious sin. Masturbation is a form of sex and and sex should be between husband and wife.
Parents should discipline their children for masturbating which includes corporal punishment (if its legal where you live)
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01-01-2009, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by davidanstey
Yes and a most serious sin. Masturbation is a form of sex and and sex should be between husband and wife.
Parents should discipline their children for masturbating which includes corporal punishment (if its legal where you live)
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I see by your profile you have two stepsons, well now I understand why you beat your kids, you will never stop what is natural to boys, been that way for millenia, seems you have a complex or something or you are a Poe.
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01-01-2009, 08:40 AM
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Bees? Not in Maine
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Originally Posted by SeekerSA
I see by your profile you have two stepsons, well now I understand why you beat your kids, you will never stop what is natural to boys, been that way for millenia, seems you have a complex or something or you are a Poe.
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It is sad to see the extent folks will go to support man-made and ungodly doctrines.
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