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Old 08-13-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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Why do you limit his learning? He could do both but one you become a Christian, it is not necessary to know about Judaism. Truth is not biased. His main contribution was becoming an expert in Hebrew and when he taught in seminary, he taught the OT, and I am sure his knowledge of Judaism help him in that.
The point is, as Pruzhany pointed out, his education was mostly secular and not religious, thus his knowledge of Judaism was weak at best...A proper Jewish religious education is conducive to proper understanding of Judaism, which he did not have...Now, if he had received a proper education from a reputable Yeshiva, then he would be properly educated in not only Judaism, but also Hebrew...
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:36 PM
 
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The point that Pruzhany is making is that his education in Hebrew was adulterated by Christian bias and not actual Jewish understanding of biblical Hebrew...Kinda like the JWs redefining the Hebrew and Greek words in the Christian bible, thus presenting a totally different view than that of mainstream Christianity...
He didn't redefine words, he translated them. If it wasn't for the passage where Rebekah is called both an alma and a bethula, I might agree Isa should not have alma.

The JW's added and omitted words to make the Bible fit their preconceived theology. That is backwards as to how we should get our theology.
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:37 PM
 
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Which came first, the chicken or the egg?...
The chicken according to Genesis.
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:54 PM
 
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The chicken according to Genesis.
And what came first, Judaism or Christianity?...
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:59 PM
 
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He didn't redefine words, he translated them. If it wasn't for the passage where Rebekah is called both an alma and a bethula, I might agree Isa should not have alma.

The JW's added and omitted words to make the Bible fit their preconceived theology. That is backwards as to how we should get our theology.
An Alma is a young woman who may or may not be a virgin...A Bethula is specifically a virgin...Isaiah would not have used Alma if he had intended to imply that she was specifically a virgin...And Why is his translation of Hebrew words not in line with actual Jewish scholars of Hebrew?...It seems that the only reason that you are defending him is because he defines the words as you would like them to be defined...
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Old 08-13-2017, 01:52 PM
 
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Isn't it kind of a given that if she is a young woman she is a virgin? Time and culture of course being nothing like we have today (except maybe in the Orthodox circles). Peace
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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Isn't it kind of a given that if she is a young woman she is a virgin? Time and culture of course being nothing like we have today (except maybe in the Orthodox circles). Peace
Just as it has been done before, they are attempting to change definitions of words.
power corrupts
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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Isn't it kind of a given that if she is a young woman she is a virgin? Time and culture of course being nothing like we have today (except maybe in the Orthodox circles). Peace
Nope...An Alma is a young woman that may or may not be a virgin...Bethula always means virgin...
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:52 PM
 
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Just as it has been done before, they are attempting to change definitions of words.
power corrupts
What definitions would that be?...
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Old 08-13-2017, 03:16 PM
 
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What definitions would that be?...
Really, me teach a grammatical lesson.

Are there honorifics in hebrew? Nevermind that.

The contextual argument over weather alma being used in one verse of a chapter is fruitless.
Just keep reading and more will be revealed.
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Virgin
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