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I throw stones/scriptures that have been smitten, ie. the life of the Spirit comes gushing out in the form of revelation. Peace
That rock should have never been smitten in anger in the first place. It did not end well for Moses did it?. He was asked to speak to the rock, so why would you even think to use something that came about in anger and disobedience ?. Not only that Jesus Christ was not a bible quoter..... He spoke Life not the letter that kills.
That rock should have never been smitten in anger in the first place. It did not end well for Moses did it?. He was asked to speak to the rock, so why would you even think to use something that came about in anger and disobedience ?. Not only that Jesus Christ was not a bible quoter..... He spoke Life not the letter that kills.
You do know he smote the Rock twice, right? The first time in obedience? Or you just like condemning Moses? Peace
You have every excuse under the sun, it is quite remarkable(actually astonishing) that someone boast in being some educated bible student what you are saying here. Jesus without fail said his source was the Father, you obviously think the Father is the bible. Never once did he say his source was the bible.
Do you not see how much you have to stretch the truth to call the bible the Father ?. Yet if someone posted on here anything remotely exaggerated you would be all over them, and so would every other bible fundamentalist........ The bible is the Father? get outta of here, you're having a laugh.
Again, let's take a close look at Daqq's post to gain understanding on what was actually said.....(thanks Daqq, getting a lot of mileage on this one )
Stephen says by the context, (and therefore the author, "Luke", likewise says), that the Torah contains the Living Oracles, Living Sayings, Living Words which Moses and the fathers received to give to the people:
Acts 7:37-38
37 This is that same Moshe who said to the sons of Yisrael, "YHWH your Elohim shall raise up a Prophet unto you from among your brethren, like unto me."
38 This is the one who was in the congregation in the desert, with the Messenger-Angel who spoke to him in mount Sinai, and to our fathers, who received Living Oracles [λογια ζωντα] to give to us:
λογια ζωντα = Living Oracles / Living Sayings / Living Words = the Torah
Romans 3:1-2
1 What advantage then has the Yhudi? or what is the profit of circumcision?
2 Much every way: first of all, that they were entrusted with the Oracles of Elohim [τα λογια του θεου].
τα λογια του θεου = the Oracles-Sayings-Words of Elohim(God)
Hebrews 5:12-13
12 For when by reason of the time you ought to be teachers, you rather have need again that someone teach you the rudiments of the first principles of the Oracles of Elohim, [των λογιων του θεου] and are become such as have need of milk, and not of solid food:
13 For every one partaking of milk is inexperienced in theWord of Righteousness, [λογου δικαιοσυνης] for he is a babe.
των λογιων του θεου ~ the Oracles of Elohim(God)
λογου δικαιοσυνης ~ the Word of Righteousness
And by the context:
των λογιων του θεου = λογου δικαιοσυνης
Therefore, I say, the Living Torah is the Living Testimony of the Living Father, and therefore the Living Torah is His Living Son: for Testimony is Spirit according to the Testimony of the Son, (John 6:63). And therefore those who "abolish" the Torah from their own hearts and minds do likewise at the same time "abolish" the Son of Elohim from their own hearts and minds: for the Son of Elohim is himself the Living Oracles, Living Sayings, and Living Words of Elohim which are the Torah. And because of these things having been plainly written, in manifold New Testament passages as shown above: this is the teaching of all of the Apostolic authors and their writings. In other words this is not just "my opinion" but that of Stephen, who according to the author of Acts was full of the Holy Spirit, (even saying that his face shown as that of an angel before the council, Acts 6:15), and therefore it is the "opinion" of the author of Acts, "Luke", and therefore likewise Paul, and likewise the author of the epistle to the Hebrews as shown above, and Peter likewise speaks in the same terms and manner concerning the Oracles of Elohim, (1Peter 4:11).
Again, let's take a close look at Daqq's post to gain understanding on what was actually said.....(thanks Daqq, getting a lot of mileage on this one )
Stephen says by the context, (and therefore the author, "Luke", likewise says), that the Torah contains the Living Oracles, Living Sayings, Living Words which Moses and the fathers received to give to the people:
Acts 7:37-38
37 This is that same Moshe who said to the sons of Yisrael, "YHWH your Elohim shall raise up a Prophet unto you from among your brethren, like unto me."
38 This is the one who was in the congregation in the desert, with the Messenger-Angel who spoke to him in mount Sinai, and to our fathers, who received Living Oracles [λογια ζωντα] to give to us:
λογια ζωντα = Living Oracles / Living Sayings / Living Words = the Torah
Romans 3:1-2
1 What advantage then has the Yhudi? or what is the profit of circumcision?
2 Much every way: first of all, that they were entrusted with the Oracles of Elohim [τα λογια του θεου].
τα λογια του θεου = the Oracles-Sayings-Words of Elohim(God)
Hebrews 5:12-13
12 For when by reason of the time you ought to be teachers, you rather have need again that someone teach you the rudiments of the first principles of the Oracles of Elohim, [των λογιων του θεου] and are become such as have need of milk, and not of solid food:
13 For every one partaking of milk is inexperienced in theWord of Righteousness, [λογου δικαιοσυνης] for he is a babe.
των λογιων του θεου ~ the Oracles of Elohim(God)
λογου δικαιοσυνης ~ the Word of Righteousness
And by the context:
των λογιων του θεου = λογου δικαιοσυνης
Therefore, I say, the Living Torah is the Living Testimony of the Living Father, and therefore the Living Torah is His Living Son: for Testimony is Spirit according to the Testimony of the Son, (John 6:63). And therefore those who "abolish" the Torah from their own hearts and minds do likewise at the same time "abolish" the Son of Elohim from their own hearts and minds: for the Son of Elohim is himself the Living Oracles, Living Sayings, and Living Words of Elohim which are the Torah. And because of these things having been plainly written, in manifold New Testament passages as shown above: this is the teaching of all of the Apostolic authors and their writings. In other words this is not just "my opinion" but that of Stephen, who according to the author of Acts was full of the Holy Spirit, (even saying that his face shown as that of an angel before the council, Acts 6:15), and therefore it is the "opinion" of the author of Acts, "Luke", and therefore likewise Paul, and likewise the author of the epistle to the Hebrews as shown above, and Peter likewise speaks in the same terms and manner concerning the Oracles of Elohim, (1Peter 4:11).
Again I will ask you, are you aware that your bible clearly states the ministry of the Spirit is far more glorious then that which is written? So do you not see it's a no brainer when it comes to which one I turn too?. Clearly from what is being said in 2 Corininthians 3 is that the ministry of the letter and the ministry of the spirit are not only not the same, but one of them is far more glorious .
He was told to strike the rock the first time? Did you miss that part, or what??? Peace
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