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Old 08-06-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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Linky time maybe?:


The Hebrew Word "to kill"

That is a Christian site, no?...It didn't have a summary...So, from a Jewish view what does the Hebrew word in the Ten Commandments actually imply?,,,
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Old 08-06-2017, 10:40 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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That is a Christian site, no?...It didn't have a summary...So, from a Jewish view what does the Hebrew word in the Ten Commandments actually imply?,,,
In Judaism it comes down to context. But this is not Judaism, it is Christianity which does care or want the Judaism viewpoint or anything from the Talmud. For them you have to supply Christian commentary.

So lets look at this article (and skip over all the politics of it).

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But an uglier truth is this: “Islamists killed an estimated 30,000 Christians worldwide last year, out of a total of 90,000 Christians murdered for their faith,”
In other words 60,000 Christians were mostly killed by other Christians.

Muslim-on-Christian Murder Rate a Shock to Sanity | Cheryl Chumley

Yet if we look up the statistics on Jews murdered by Jews, it's 3 per 100,000.

Thus as the numbers show, they don't care what Jews follow and do.
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Old 08-06-2017, 07:35 PM
 
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What about the conquest of the land of Canaan where G-d commands them to wipe them all out?...
See my answer to Mike 555 in Post 59.
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Old 08-06-2017, 07:42 PM
 
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And maybe the Ten Commandments were someone's wet dream also...If you call this into question then you must call it all into question...
Says who?

But yes, since you brought it up, as a matter of fact I DO call it all into question.

Never read Night by Elie Weisel, did you.
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Old 08-06-2017, 09:12 PM
 
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In Judaism it comes down to context. But this is not Judaism, it is Christianity which does care or want the Judaism viewpoint or anything from the Talmud. For them you have to supply Christian commentary.

So lets look at this article (and skip over all the politics of it).



In other words 60,000 Christians were mostly killed by other Christians.

Muslim-on-Christian Murder Rate a Shock to Sanity | Cheryl Chumley

Yet if we look up the statistics on Jews murdered by Jews, it's 3 per 100,000.

Thus as the numbers show, they don't care what Jews follow and do.
That is not what it said. It said 30,000 out of 90,000 murdered because they are Christians.
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Old 08-06-2017, 09:39 PM
 
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In Judaism it comes down to context. But this is not Judaism, it is Christianity which does care or want the Judaism viewpoint or anything from the Talmud. For them you have to supply Christian commentary.

So lets look at this article (and skip over all the politics of it).



In other words 60,000 Christians were mostly killed by other Christians.

Muslim-on-Christian Murder Rate a Shock to Sanity | Cheryl Chumley

Yet if we look up the statistics on Jews murdered by Jews, it's 3 per 100,000.

Thus as the numbers show, they don't care what Jews follow and do.
That is about the worst link available on the internet to post regarding the number of Christians killed for being Christian. The whole point of that article is to skip over places that are communist and kill their own Christian citizens and go on to rant about the 30K killed by Muslims to push their anti-Muslim agenda. Do you have such an agenda, or why are all your sources in various threads from these sorts of sites?

Anyway, it said nothing about Christians killing each other. It most certainly did NOT say the other 60K were killed by other Christians, which you'd know if you had investigated further rather than making that giant leap, which required you to ignore the first paragraph of YOUR OWN ARTICLE to take a swipe at Christians too.

Your article specifically mentioned places like N. Korea who kill Christians, because they are supposed to worship the ruling family. The way you read and interpret things is very strange.
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Old 08-06-2017, 10:00 PM
 
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Says who?

But yes, since you brought it up, as a matter of fact I DO call it all into question.

Never read Night by Elie Weisel, did you.
I'll have to take a look at it....
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Old 08-06-2017, 10:02 PM
 
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In Judaism it comes down to context. But this is not Judaism, it is Christianity which does care or want the Judaism viewpoint or anything from the Talmud. For them you have to supply Christian commentary.

So lets look at this article (and skip over all the politics of it).



In other words 60,000 Christians were mostly killed by other Christians.

Muslim-on-Christian Murder Rate a Shock to Sanity | Cheryl Chumley

Yet if we look up the statistics on Jews murdered by Jews, it's 3 per 100,000.

Thus as the numbers show, they don't care what Jews follow and do.
But they love to quote their OT stating that it is our Torah, which it is not...
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Old 08-06-2017, 10:13 PM
 
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But they love to quote their OT stating that it is our Torah, which it is not...
Again with the broad-brushing of all Christians. My pastor studies ancient texts in Hebrew and Aramaic. His sermons are fascinating.
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Old 08-07-2017, 01:58 AM
 
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That is not what it said. It said 30,000 out of 90,000 murdered because they are Christians.
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But an uglier truth is this: “Islamists killed an estimated 30,000 Christians worldwide last year, out of a total of 90,000 Christians murdered for their faith,” the Clarion Project reported, citing a new study from the Center for Studies on new Religions in Turin, Italy.

Did you catch that significance? Not only were 90,000 Christians killed solely for their faith in 2016, the study found. But a third were killed by Muslims.
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