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Old 08-18-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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Jesus did not have that exclusion mentality, Jesus and the disciples quoted those other books also, but of course you don't care to know that because it goes against what you are saying.

Do you really think a bunch of first century JEWS who heard the scriptures every Shabbat were too stupid to know what the canon was they were hearing? The FACT is, those 24 books were the Jewish canon at that time. Period. Peace
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Old 08-18-2017, 09:12 PM
 
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Do you really think a bunch of first century JEWS who heard the scriptures every Shabbat were too stupid to know what the canon was they were hearing? The FACT is, those 24 books were the Jewish canon at that time. Period. Peace
Funny how the Jewish canon changed from Paul's day to our day, as is witnessed in both Jeremiah and Isaiah.

In Paul's day Jeremiah was 1/7 short then it is today and Isaiah was 1/8 shorter. but I guess you don't want to look at that.
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Old 08-19-2017, 11:24 AM
 
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Funny how the Jewish canon changed from Paul's day to our day, as is witnessed in both Jeremiah and Isaiah.

In Paul's day Jeremiah was 1/7 short then it is today and Isaiah was 1/8 shorter. but I guess you don't want to look at that.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with what the canon was in Paul and Jesus's day. NADA. Peace
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Old 08-19-2017, 02:52 PM
 
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Which has absolutely nothing to do with what the canon was in Paul and Jesus's day. NADA. Peace






Your a lost cause sis, at least for now.


The canon is NOT the canon and history shows us this, but don't let the facts get in your way.


It is no wonder so many are falling away from a belief in God, it because of people like you who absolutely refuse to deal with the facts.
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Old 08-19-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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Your a lost cause sis, at least for now.


The canon is NOT the canon and history shows us this, but don't let the facts get in your way.


It is no wonder so many are falling away from a belief in God, it because of people like you who absolutely refuse to deal with the facts.

Really? I'm not the one ignoring what the canon was in their day. That is a FACT that is non negotiable. Not your endless trying to tear down reality to get it to conform to your "new" doctrine.

And you can't fall away from a Spirit filled belief in G-d, it's not possible. You can fall away from lifeless religion, and Babylon is falling as we speak. She just doesn't know it yet. Peace
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Old 08-19-2017, 03:05 PM
 
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Really? I'm not the one ignoring what the canon was in their day. That is a FACT that is non negotiable. Not your endless trying to tear down reality to get it to conform to your "new" doctrine. Peace

I already showed you the canon was not the same in their day but you refused to even look at it.
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Old 08-19-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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I already showed you the canon was not the same in their day but you refused to even look at it.
And I already showed you it was and you refused to look at it. Again...from Chabad...notice the age at which the canon was SET.

The word “apocrypha” originates from the Greek and Latin words for “secret” or “NON-CANONICAL.” It is commonly used to refer to ancient, mostly Second Temple–era works that are “outside” of the Jewish Bible.

The Apocrypha includes, but is not limited to, works such as Sirach (Ben Sira), Maccabees, Judith, the book of Enoch, Jubilees, the story of Susanna, and Baruch. Some of these works were known to us all along, and others were recently discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls in the Qumran Caves and in the Cairo Genizah, both of which had preserved ancient Jewish manuscripts.

The 24 books of the Bible (Tanach) were canonized by the Anshei Knesset Hagedolah (“Men of the Great Assembly”), which included some of the greatest Jewish scholars and leaders of the time, such as Ezra the Scribe, and even the last of the prophets, namely Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi. With the death of these prophets, the age of prophecy came to an end. Any later works are not considered Divinely inspired, and are therefore not included in the 24 books of the holy Scriptures.
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Old 08-19-2017, 03:24 PM
 
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I already showed you the canon was not the same in their day but you refused to even look at it.
liar

All you bring is predisposed contention against any and all believers Faith in redemption at the victory of the Cross.

And for those that follow him where ever he goes,, a walk in the scripture is like a walk through time.
Growing a space reserved for those that Love his Day.
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Old 08-20-2017, 06:20 AM
 
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And I already showed you it was and you refused to look at it. Again...from Chabad...notice the age at which the canon was SET.

The word “apocrypha” originates from the Greek and Latin words for “secret” or “NON-CANONICAL.” It is commonly used to refer to ancient, mostly Second Temple–era works that are “outside” of the Jewish Bible.

The Apocrypha includes, but is not limited to, works such as Sirach (Ben Sira), Maccabees, Judith, the book of Enoch, Jubilees, the story of Susanna, and Baruch. Some of these works were known to us all along, and others were recently discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls in the Qumran Caves and in the Cairo Genizah, both of which had preserved ancient Jewish manuscripts.

The 24 books of the Bible (Tanach) were canonized by the Anshei Knesset Hagedolah (“Men of the Great Assembly”), which included some of the greatest Jewish scholars and leaders of the time, such as Ezra the Scribe, and even the last of the prophets, namely Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi. With the death of these prophets, the age of prophecy came to an end. Any later works are not considered Divinely inspired, and are therefore not included in the 24 books of the holy Scriptures.


You are missing the point rbbi'


the Jewish/protestant canon does not accept those other books, the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) canon does accept those other books.


So by what authority do you say when Paul said all scripture is inspired by God he was referring to the Jewish/protestant canon instead of the RCC canon?
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Old 08-20-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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You are missing the point rbbi'


the Jewish/protestant canon does not accept those other books, the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) canon does accept those other books.


So by what authority do you say when Paul said all scripture is inspired by God he was referring to the Jewish/protestant canon instead of the RCC canon?

Are you serious??? You do know the RCC didn't exist in Paul's time, right? The ONLY scriptures Paul had to refer to, was the ones he grew up hearing every Shabbat in the temple, and that he studied night and day as a student of Gamaliel, grandson of Hillel. Peace
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