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Old 08-16-2017, 03:33 PM
 
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Also, if Mary had other children then Jesus wouldn't need to tell John to take Mary into his home from the cross. Mary would have gone to live with her other children.

Also, in those days cousins were called brothers since there was no word for brother.
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Old 08-16-2017, 04:21 PM
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Also, if Mary had other children then Jesus wouldn't need to tell John to take Mary into his home from the cross. Mary would have gone to live with her other children.

Also, in those days cousins were called brothers since there was no word for brother.
Again...reading a lot into the text there. We don't really know why John was entrusted to take care of her. We do know that he was the "disciple whom Jesus loved". We do do know that Jesus' brothers were very critical of him, and the theory was that they weren't there for Mary because they didn't want to associate with him. Is that it? We don't know. I'm not going to die on that hill, nor will I make up doctrines to support the idea.
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Old 08-16-2017, 05:32 PM
 
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So, in your mind you separate those who do not pass your test.

Jerwade, it is the WORD that condemns you, don't you know that yet? Peace
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Old 08-16-2017, 05:56 PM
 
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Again...reading a lot into the text there. We don't really know why John was entrusted to take care of her. We do know that he was the "disciple whom Jesus loved". We do do know that Jesus' brothers were very critical of him, and the theory was that they weren't there for Mary because they didn't want to associate with him. Is that it? We don't know. I'm not going to die on that hill, nor will I make up doctrines to support the idea.
That's right we can't know anything if it wasn't stated in the bible. No where does it say Jesus' natural siblings, as in Mary's and Joseph's children, rejected Jesus and abandoned Mary.

All we have to go on is what is stated and put together the clues from the bible, plus know Jewish history very well. Back then families stayed together just out of sheer survival so even if they had political differences they would not abandon their mother.
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Old 08-16-2017, 05:59 PM
 
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Except that it wasn't said for Mary's sake, but for John's. Peace
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Old 08-16-2017, 10:29 PM
 
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Except that it wasn't said for Mary's sake, but for John's. Peace
How so? It was Mary who needed a place of safety, remember the time they lived. No woman lived alone.
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Old 08-16-2017, 10:44 PM
 
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Again...reading a lot into the text there. We don't really know why John was entrusted to take care of her. We do know that he was the "disciple whom Jesus loved". We do do know that Jesus' brothers were very critical of him, and the theory was that they weren't there for Mary because they didn't want to associate with him. Is that it? We don't know. I'm not going to die on that hill, nor will I make up doctrines to support the idea.
It was Mary of Magdala, not John whom he loved.
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Old 08-16-2017, 11:23 PM
 
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Jerwade, it is the WORD that condemns you, don't you know that yet? Peace
Jesus is The Word and He condemns no one. How did you miss that?
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:39 AM
 
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It was Mary of Magdala, not John whom he loved.
The bible say many times when they mean the apostle John it says the apostle Jesus loved. John was the youngest apostle and maybe just my take a sort of son image for Jesus, after all Jesus never was going to marry anyone or have a family of his own, not here on earth anyway.
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Old 08-17-2017, 02:08 AM
 
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It was Mary of Magdala, not John whom he loved.
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The bible say many times when they mean the apostle John it says the apostle Jesus loved. John was the youngest apostle and maybe just my take a sort of son image for Jesus, after all Jesus never was going to marry anyone or have a family of his own, not here on earth anyway.
I disagree with that for a multiple of reasons; it's not specific to that of John.
And it doesn't have anything to do with a marriage ceremony

Mary was an Apostle to the apostles and the closest to Jesus himself.

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