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Old 08-20-2017, 07:52 PM
 
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And if by enemy you mean lucifer. And that he will save you?

That's a decent enough confession of who you worship. where I'm from taking the mark of the beast ends badly.
Then you should learn to love so you won't have the mark of the beast.

Agape love is me loving you because of who I am; whereas Phileo love is me loving others because of who they are.

God IS agape Love--because He is Who He is. Do you believe that part of the Bible? And if you do, why is not your whole being an attempt to become like Him?

There may be a shortage of a lot things--but not of God's mercy and love:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjpJ10NNkgI

There's a shortage on corn and there's a shortage on wheat.
There's a shortage on beans, we've got a shortage on meat
Things that we needed we just can't hardly buy
Soon we'll be askin' if we're all gonna die.
But I know a great thing there'll be no shortage of
There's no shortage on God's mercy,
There's no shortage on God's love.

There's a shortage on fuel oil, there's a shortage on gas
There's a shortage on wood and there's a shortage on glass.
Things that we wasted are now precious to buy
You know there's even a shortage on the air and the sky.
But I know a good thing there'll be no shortage of
There's no shortage on God's mercy
There's no shortage on God's love.

God is love and mercy unending
His precious love will leave you no doubts
When from Satan you need defending
God has supply that will never run out.
There's a shortage on friendships
There's a shortage on smiles
There's a shortage on neighbors though there's millions for miles
But heaven's the one thing there'll be no shortage of
There's no shortage on God's mercy
There's no shortage on God's love.

There's no shortage
There's no shortage
There's no shortage(there's no shortage on God's love)
There's no shortage(I said I can feel His love in my heart right now)

If you haven't a sense of the depth and breadth of God's love, then your heart has been closed to the main message of Scripture.
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Old 08-20-2017, 08:04 PM
 
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[quote=Wardendresden;49260806]Then you should learn to love so you won't have the mark of the beast.

Agape love is me loving you because of who I am; whereas Phileo love is me loving others because of who they are.

God IS agape Love--because He is Who He is. Do you believe that part of the Bible? And if you do, why is not your whole being an attempt to become like Him?

There may be a shortage of a lot things--but not of God's mercy and love:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjpJ10NNkgI

There's a shortage on corn and there's a shortage on wheat.
There's a shortage on beans, we've got a shortage on meat
Things that we needed we just can't hardly buy
Soon we'll be askin' if we're all gonna die.
But I know a great thing there'll be no shortage of
There's no shortage on God's mercy,
There's no shortage on God's love.

There's a shortage on fuel oil, there's a shortage on gas
There's a shortage on wood and there's a shortage on glass.
Things that we wasted are now precious to buy
You know there's even a shortage on the air and the sky.
But I know a good thing there'll be no shortage of
There's no shortage on God's mercy
There's no shortage on God's love.

God is love and mercy unending
His precious love will leave you no doubts
When from Satan you need defending
God has supply that will never run out.
There's a shortage on friendships
There's a shortage on smiles
There's a shortage on neighbors though there's millions for miles
But heaven's the one thing there'll be no shortage of
There's no shortage on God's mercy
There's no shortage on God's love.

There's no shortage
There's no shortage
There's no shortage(there's no shortage on God's love)
There's no shortage(I said I can feel His love in my heart right now)

If you haven't a sense of the depth and breadth of God's love, then your heart has been closed to the main message of Scripture.[/QUOTE


And Jehu the son of Hanani, the seer, came out before him, and said to King Jehoshaphat, "[Did you go] to aid the wicked, and do you love those who hate the Lord? Now because of this there is wrath upon you from before the Lord.
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Old 08-20-2017, 08:25 PM
 
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[quote=pinacled;49260893]
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Originally Posted by Wardendresden View Post
Then you should learn to love so you won't have the mark of the beast.

Agape love is me loving you because of who I am; whereas Phileo love is me loving others because of who they are.

God IS agape Love--because He is Who He is. Do you believe that part of the Bible? And if you do, why is not your whole being an attempt to become like Him?

There may be a shortage of a lot things--but not of God's mercy and love:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjpJ10NNkgI

There's a shortage on corn and there's a shortage on wheat.
There's a shortage on beans, we've got a shortage on meat
Things that we needed we just can't hardly buy
Soon we'll be askin' if we're all gonna die.
But I know a great thing there'll be no shortage of
There's no shortage on God's mercy,
There's no shortage on God's love.

There's a shortage on fuel oil, there's a shortage on gas
There's a shortage on wood and there's a shortage on glass.
Things that we wasted are now precious to buy
You know there's even a shortage on the air and the sky.
But I know a good thing there'll be no shortage of
There's no shortage on God's mercy
There's no shortage on God's love.

God is love and mercy unending
His precious love will leave you no doubts
When from Satan you need defending
God has supply that will never run out.
There's a shortage on friendships
There's a shortage on smiles
There's a shortage on neighbors though there's millions for miles
But heaven's the one thing there'll be no shortage of
There's no shortage on God's mercy
There's no shortage on God's love.

There's no shortage
There's no shortage
There's no shortage(there's no shortage on God's love)
There's no shortage(I said I can feel His love in my heart right now)

If you haven't a sense of the depth and breadth of God's love, then your heart has been closed to the main message of Scripture.[/QUOTE


And Jehu the son of Hanani, the seer, came out before him, and said to King Jehoshaphat, "[Did you go] to aid the wicked, and do you love those who hate the Lord? Now because of this there is wrath upon you from before the Lord.
Baptize with Fire?
These are the statutes and judgments, which ye shall observe to do in the land, which the Lord God of thy fathers giveth thee to possess it, all the days that ye live upon the earth.

2 Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:

3 And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire;
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Old 08-20-2017, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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You guys I've had it...HOW many xs do I have to scroll past posts re-quoted !!!
Edit these youtubes, already!
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Old 08-20-2017, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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[quote=pinacled;49260893]
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Originally Posted by Wardendresden View Post
Then you should learn to love so you won't have the mark of the beast.

Agape love is me loving you because of who I am; whereas Phileo love is me loving others because of who they are.

God IS agape Love--because He is Who He is. Do you believe that part of the Bible? And if you do, why is not your whole being an attempt to become like Him?

There may be a shortage of a lot things--but not of God's mercy and love:

There's a shortage on corn and there's a shortage on wheat.
There's a shortage on beans, we've got a shortage on meat
Things that we needed we just can't hardly buy
Soon we'll be askin' if we're all gonna die.
But I know a great thing there'll be no shortage of
There's no shortage on God's mercy,
There's no shortage on God's love.

There's a shortage on fuel oil, there's a shortage on gas
There's a shortage on wood and there's a shortage on glass.
Things that we wasted are now precious to buy
You know there's even a shortage on the air and the sky.
But I know a good thing there'll be no shortage of
There's no shortage on God's mercy
There's no shortage on God's love.

God is love and mercy unending
His precious love will leave you no doubts
When from Satan you need defending
God has supply that will never run out.
There's a shortage on friendships
There's a shortage on smiles
There's a shortage on neighbors though there's millions for miles
But heaven's the one thing there'll be no shortage of
There's no shortage on God's mercy
There's no shortage on God's love.

There's no shortage
There's no shortage
There's no shortage(there's no shortage on God's love)
There's no shortage(I said I can feel His love in my heart right now)

If you haven't a sense of the depth and breadth of God's love, then your heart has been closed to the main message of Scripture.[/QUOTE


And Jehu the son of Hanani, the seer, came out before him, and said to King Jehoshaphat, "[Did you go] to aid the wicked, and do you love those who hate the Lord? Now because of this there is wrath upon you from before the Lord.
What is the main message of God if it is not love? Tell us all plainly.

Did Jesus hate those who hated Him, or did He love them.

DO YOU BELIEVE GOD IS LOVE?

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Old 08-20-2017, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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[quote=pinacled;49261075]
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Baptize with Fire?
These are the statutes and judgments, which ye shall observe to do in the land, which the Lord God of thy fathers giveth thee to possess it, all the days that ye live upon the earth.

2 Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:

3 And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire;
I cor. 13:13
So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

I John 4:7
Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God.

I John 4:19
We love because he first loved us.

Gal. 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

Rom. 13:10
Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

I Peter 4:8
Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.

John 13:34-35
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Song of Solomon 8:7
Many waters cannot quench love, neither can floods drown it. If a man offered for love all the wealth of his house, he would be utterly despised.

I John 4:8
Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.

I John 4:16
So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.

Rom. 5:8
But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

I Cor. 16:14
Let all that you do be done in love.

I John 4:18
Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth.

Prov. 10:12
Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses.

Col. 3:14
And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony.

Psalm 136:1-3
Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good.
His love endures forever.
Give thanks to the God of gods.
His love endures forever.
Give thanks to the Lord of lords:
His love endures forever.

I Cor. 13:2
And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

What part of loving others, loving in deed and truth, letting all that you do be done in love, letting love bind things in perfect harmony, God IS love, and "anyone who does not love, does not know God" do you not understand? Why isn't love the center of your life? Why isn't it the foundation of your faith? Doesn't Paul warn us that whatever "gifts" we may possess -- or even faith-- mean absolutely nothing at all without love?

Why kickest thou against the pricks?

"And he said, 'Who art thou, Lord?' And Jesus said, 'I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.'" (Acts 9:5 KJV)
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What made the author say 'God is love'? It is because God sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Propriation = satisfaction and appeasement.

Ironically the people who claim God is love (and nothing else), reject the reason why the author said it in the first place. They do not believe Jesus was sent for that reason. To them god is love, and love is god, a feeling, or a principle, not the creator of the universe.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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Love is the foundation of all that God is.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:46 AM
 
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Love is the foundation of all that God is.
His plan to intentionally sacrifice his own son, so that others may live, was indeed founded in love. The "God is love" passage is not the only passage where that fact is pointed out.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:12 AM
 
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What made the author say 'God is love'? It is because God sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Propriation = satisfaction and appeasement.

Ironically the people who claim God is love (and nothing else), reject the reason why the author said it in the first place. They do not believe Jesus was sent for that reason. To them god is love, and love is god, a feeling, or a principle, not the creator of the universe.
Let's revise that to include "what made SEVERAL authors say 'God is love.'" And let's not forget that Jesus Himself COMMANDED us that we love one another.

Col. 3:14
And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony.


This isn't a discussion about propitiation. It is a discussion about the primary characteristic of God. Propitiation is but one illustration of that characteristic.

Did any of the authors of the "love" verses state that we should serve God because we are "satisfied?" Or did they say we should love because we ARE loved?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfMm6cHPjzE

I am loved, I am loved
I can risk loving you
For the One who knows me best
Loves me most
I am loved you are loved
Won't you please take my hand
We are free to love each other
We are loved

I said if You knew You wouldn't want me
My scars are hidden by the face I wear
He said my child My scars go deeper
It was love for you that put them there


Forgiven I repeat it I'm forgiven
Clean before my Lord, I freely stand
Forgiven I can dare to love my brother
Forgiven I reach out to take your hand
---------------------
The dissatisfaction for those who have experienced God's love is to see "christians" make excuses to not love their neighbors by focusing on those people's sin instead of their own. The latter occurring when people understand what that propitiation portion of love truly means.
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