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Old 09-01-2017, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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Where there is love, there is no need for the law.
Yes, you are right on, Sparrow.

1 Timothy 1:9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, For the law was not intended for people who do what is right.
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Old 09-02-2017, 08:47 AM
 
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Speaking of civil law, Paul says

Which doesn't change what I said, one iota. Peace
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Old 09-02-2017, 09:52 AM
 
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Actually, that's inaccurate. What was said was, that AGAINST SUCH, there is no law. Which only means that the law does not need to be USED to correct such, not that there is never any need for the law, as everyone that wants to do away with it, seems to construe that scripture as meaning. Whether you do or not, I don't know, I'm just lining up the thought there, BTW. Peace
Actually, it is 100% accurate. What was said was what I just said. Where there is love, there is no need for the law.


Where there is LOVE, there is no evil to restrain, therefore no NEED for law.


If you love your child, do you then need a law that tells you not to harm your child? Or would the thought not even enter your mind because of your love for your child?


Where there is LOVE, there is no need for law for there is nothing evil to restrain.


Jesus didn't need laws, did he?



Do WE need laws, here on this earth?
Of course. Because love does not yet rule supreme.
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Old 09-02-2017, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Which doesn't change what I said, one iota. Peace
And the point is that it is not for followers of Jesus, who should not need it for guidance, but for those who are NOT committed to the good of the community.

Spiritual guidance, not physical restrainst nor prescribed processes.

It also doesn't mean that specific guidance for conduct may not be helpful, but it DOES mean that ALL such guidance is subject to review in the Spirit that is our guide.
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Old 09-02-2017, 03:26 PM
 
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Actually, it is 100% accurate. What was said was what I just said. Where there is love, there is no need for the law.
Where there is LOVE, there is no evil to restrain, therefore no NEED for law.
If you love your child, do you then need a law that tells you not to harm your child? Or would the thought not even enter your mind because of your love for your child?
Where there is LOVE, there is no need for law for there is nothing evil to restrain.
Jesus didn't need laws, did he?
Do WE need laws, here on this earth?
Of course. Because love does not yet rule supreme.
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Old 09-02-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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just love the starving child till death.

Cursing the father all the way.
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Old 09-02-2017, 03:39 PM
 
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just love the starving child till death.
Cursing the father all the way.
??????
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Old 09-02-2017, 03:44 PM
 
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Actually, it is 100% accurate. What was said was what I just said. Where there is love, there is no need for the law.


Where there is LOVE, there is no evil to restrain, therefore no NEED for law.


If you love your child, do you then need a law that tells you not to harm your child? Or would the thought not even enter your mind because of your love for your child?


Where there is LOVE, there is no need for law for there is nothing evil to restrain.


Jesus didn't need laws, did he?



Do WE need laws, here on this earth?
Of course. Because love does not yet rule supreme.

No, actually it's not. Jesus also said He didn't come to destroy (I'd say throwing it away qualifies) the law, but to fulfill it. He fulfilled it first in Himself, then as we come into agreement, He fulfills it in His body, because the Head and the body have to come into agreement, which is the basis for covenant relationship. But at no time, is it not needed in the sense of throwing it away, until heaven and earth have passed away and seedtime and harvest are through, which clearly hasn't happened yet. That's my point. Peace
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Old 09-02-2017, 03:45 PM
 
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just love the starving child till death.

Cursing the father all the way.



Exactly. Peace
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Old 09-02-2017, 03:47 PM
 
Location: New England
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No, actually it's not. Jesus also said He didn't come to destroy (I'd say throwing it away qualifies) the law, but to fulfill it. He fulfilled it first in Himself, then as we come into agreement, He fulfills it in His body. But at no time, is it not needed in the sense of throwing it away, until heaven and earth have passed away and seedtime and harvest are through. That's my point. Peace

Of cause he didn't, it is in place for all those who do not walk in newness of life by the ministry of the Spirit.

He fulfilled it by Being who he was.
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