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I sure would like for you to follow me around like a fly on the wall.. no even then you would see if you don't want to see it.. just let me say . God is real Jesus is a man with all the authority of God own right arm and if you had any faith . capable of any kind faith you would have already seen him. your not capable of seeing him is the whole point. your not honest or intellectually honest enough with yourself to see him . even if he showed himself... I don't think years ago I would have been able to see what is flowing like water around me now.. because he gave me eyes to see him and his working .. because I wanted those eyes. and he will give us what we seek.. and "seek and you will find" he never lied about that .
you aren't knocking and you aren't seeking and you aren't wanting or you would have already found.
I will pray your will softens but ... no reason to spend time trying to show you anything when your eyes are closed and your mind is not honest with you about that fact .
Allow me to say that this concept of Satan has to do with human beings (and their nature) who came before those who represented GOD (the Sons of God) and he was merely a human adversary of Job. If you look closely into the post-exilic development of Judaism, you will see that it was Rabbinic Judaism and its mystical brother Kabbalism that finalized this false idea of a "cosmic" satan into the Jewish religion as there is no such thing as a "fallen" angel, except those (i.e., human messengers) who left their first estate and livelihood taking up with the common daughters' of men.
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Originally Posted by Rbbi1
Why would I listen to you? You don't believe the bible. Think about it. Peace
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
What I do not buy into is the nonsense that people have taken as reality; demons, devils and Satan.
Which actually has nothing to do with GODS WORD, and everything to do with human imagination.
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Originally Posted by omega2xx
Since demons, the devil and Satan are mentioned in the Bible, they do have something to do with God's word.
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Originally Posted by Richard1965
Well for one Satan is not an adversarial entity...
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Originally Posted by omega2xx
You need to look up the meaning of Satan. Then name God gave him.
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
It's not about a supernatural entity named Satan, who runs to, and fro seeking whom he may devour.
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Originally Posted by omega2xx
I was responding to your comment that Satan was not an adversarial entity. The meaning of his name says he is.
Nowhere did I say anything about Satan being an entity; a thing or creature with a distinct and independent or separate existence?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G5xx_A-rYc I love what he says in here about ...... sounds heretical but it is not ...." the bible always doesn't mean what it says , it always means what it means" it is the only book in history that requires the author to be present to understand it completely.. because it has layers of truth and vision, and witnessed history and prophesy in it's verses. and just deeper and wider than any mind without God's spirits help can ever comprehend. really the video brings up some great points about the kinds of things God could tell. how all truth has layers .. maybe not all layers of a truth were revealed. mankind is already are freaked out kind of fearful and superstitious .. how much more if Enoch is even close..
Nowhere did I say anything about Satan being an entity; a thing or creature with a distinct and independent or separate existence?
He is not an enemy of G-d...He works for G-d...
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