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Old 11-01-2017, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Townsville
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All you have provided is what the authorities need to come and arrest you right on the spot for stalking Saul.

As how many times have the warnings gone out same person same name same badge# the search warrants are on.

O/\/ delivered warrants to police long before a stalking career had to show up and try his manners again causing doubting.

Thou shalt not cause a husband and a wife to have issues between their marriage because someone is too arrogant to 'belong'.
Dang ...it must be those mushrooms I ate tonight ...I'm hallucinating . . .
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Old 11-01-2017, 07:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by L8Gr8Apost8
Abuse is not a scriptural reason for divorce and/or remarriage. Biblically there isn't really any abuse unless it is the wife doing it to the husband...[...]

1 Corinthians 7:13

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New International Version
And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.

New Living Translation
And if a Christian woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to continue living with her, she must not leave him.

English Standard Version
If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him.
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Old 11-01-2017, 10:56 AM
 
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Originally Posted by L8Gr8Apost8
Abuse is not a scriptural reason for divorce and/or remarriage. Biblically there isn't really any abuse unless it is the wife doing it to the husband...[...]

1 Corinthians 7:13

Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.

New Living Translation
And if a Christian woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to continue living with her, she must not leave him.

English Standard Version
If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him.
That may be true, but there is no way I'd ever counsel a woman to remain in a home where she was being abused.
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Old 11-01-2017, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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That may be true, but there is no way I'd ever counsel a woman to remain in a home where she was being abused.
Why would you be counseling abused women? I thought you worked with computers.
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Old 11-01-2017, 12:54 PM
 
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Why would you be counseling abused women? I thought you worked with computers.
He could be referring to a friend, coworker or relative. Whatever or whomever there are at least two Bible Believers who you, and i, have locked horns with on several issues who have stated plainly that they strongly oppose spousal abuse. Give credit where credit is due.
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Old 11-01-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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Why would you be counseling abused women? I thought you worked with computers.
Do you not have any friends, relatives, etc that are female?

Have you never heard of lay counselors? Elders/deacons often participate in lay counseling, and minister to people in a church setting.
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Old 11-01-2017, 01:11 PM
 
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Do you not have any friends, relatives, etc that are female?

Have you never heard of lay counselors? Elders/deacons often participate in lay counseling, and minister to people in a church setting.
Lay counselors? Those would be the untrained amateurs dabbling in something that they have no knowledge about, doing potential harm.

And your church things this is a good idea?
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Old 11-01-2017, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Do you not have any friends, relatives, etc that are female?

Have you never heard of lay counselors? Elders/deacons often participate in lay counseling, and minister to people in a church setting.
Yeah,

Uh-huh.

Sure.

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Old 11-01-2017, 03:11 PM
 
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Lay counselors? Those would be the untrained amateurs dabbling in something that they have no knowledge about, doing potential harm.

And your church things this is a good idea?
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Old 11-01-2017, 03:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Orion Rules Originally Posted by L8Gr8Apost8
Abuse is not a scriptural reason for divorce and/or remarriage. Biblically there isn't really any abuse unless it is the wife doing it to the husband...[...]

1 Corinthians 7:13

Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.

New Living Translation
And if a Christian woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to continue living with her, she must not leave him.

English Standard Version
If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him.
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That may be true, but there is no way I'd ever counsel a woman to remain in a home where she was being abused.
That's the way it's meant BaptistFundie, the word of God has been misused.

Imagine that, how many times has that scripture been misread?

Time to get the glasses out. Or put the glasses on.

Most obviously if he is abusing her he is not content living with her.
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