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Old 01-01-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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You're are being disingenuous. As I stated, I provided four such verses in post #3 in which Yahweh is referred to as the cloud rider/ or rider of the heavens.

We're done. This forum should be for mature people only.
Only three of them even refer to Hashem riding the clouds...However, Isaiah 7:13 states that the Mashiach [the one COMING with the clouds] was brought before the Ancient of Days and the Ancient of Days is G-d...
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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This is for my own knowledge to better understand Christian doctrine.

The question is, why do Christians do not believe that Jesus Christ could be a prophet of God, and not God himself!

And how would the faith of a Christian person effected if he chooses to believe that Jesus was only a prophet of God, just as there were quite a few before him? And they all had the same exact message, monotheism! There is only one God who is not begotten and neither does he beget, and he has no partners.
Somebody called Jesus righteous, and he said that none were righteous but the father. Jesus was a man fully indwelled with the spirit of the father, and there is only one spirit.
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:30 PM
 
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So, he was a prophet...Period...



Jesus didn't say that...The author did...




And you're wrong again, Mike...




None of that is stating that he is G-d...

Daniel - Chapter 7

13 I saw in the visions of the night, and behold with the clouds of the heaven, one like a man was coming, and he came up to the Ancient of Days and was brought before Him.


Rashi:

one like a man was coming: That is the King Messiah.
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and… up to the Ancient of Days: Who was sitting in judgment and judging the nations.
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came: arrived, reached.


The cloud rider was brought BEFORE G-d...

why are you not posting in the Judaism forum?
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:33 PM
 
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why are you not posting in the Judaism forum?

He is more informed than the Christian in here, he quotes Jesus and then Christians reject what Jesus said, and that is pretty pathetic.


It seems that Richard believes Jesus more than Christians do.
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:34 PM
 
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Christianity began as a Jewish creed in the Land of Israel, around the fist-century.
However, it appears that you don't know the history or the elements that separated them.

Instead, you follow a syncretistic (i.e., blended) religion under the umbrella of Catholicism.
what does our opinion on christian history this have to do with Richard preaching Judaism and attacking christians ON A CHRISTIAN FORUM? I don't see Christians doing this on the Judaism forum.
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:42 PM
 
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Somebody called Jesus righteous, and he said that none were righteous but the father. Jesus was a man fully indwelled with the spirit of the father, and there is only one spirit.
No, HF, someone called him "good" to which he replied that only the Father was good...


Mar 10:18* And Jesus said to him, 'Why me dost thou call good? no one is good except One—God;*
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:44 PM
 
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why are you not posting in the Judaism forum?
We Jews already know what the Hebrew scriptures [what you call the Old Testament in its edited form] say and mean...
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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He is more informed than the Christian in here, he quotes Jesus and then Christians reject what Jesus said, and that is pretty pathetic.


It seems that Richard believes Jesus more than Christians do.

no Richard only attacking Christians claiming they are wrong
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:46 PM
 
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We Jews already know what the Hebrew scriptures [what you call the Old Testament in its edited form] say and mean...

so stay at the Judaism forum. christians are not going over there and lJews are wrong
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:47 PM
 
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He is more informed than the Christian in here, he quotes Jesus and then Christians reject what Jesus said, and that is pretty pathetic.


It seems that Richard believes Jesus more than Christians do.
HF, I am arguing from an academic stance...Providing the actual Hebrew scriptures that they use in an edited form to prove their Messiah, which is not the Jewish Mashiach...Just as their idea of Satan is nowhere found in the Hebrew scriptures...
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