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The only thing that is really confusing is "organized" religion. The Christian faith goes against everything that Jesus teaches, and it goes against the message of the Bible. The true message of the Bible is that the Spirit teaches each person individually. So the whole idea of an Organized Systematic theology is antichristian.
In other words, once you understand the Bible, you realize you don't need it anymore. Because you have the Spirit to teach you.
Jesus built His church from every anointed in the temple of the Holy Spirit to go out to all the world and spread the gospel , as the temple in Jerusalem only, just never cut it so Jesus said believers could worship God in spirit and in true anywhere ........ So today if there are countless denominations of mom and pop churches who still use the bible then people will have a chance of being saved and than go on to heaven to be with the Lord ..... Where the tare churches will find their ways to no were .... So Glory to God , people today are still getting saved to the living Christ ...... People should find the right church were Jesus usually is were the gospel is preached and there is evidence of Holy Spirit .........Jesus said leave the tare alone in His Church as God`s spirit will take care of these .
"For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God."
Romans 8:14
For Paul, "Jesus" was a name for the Christ spirit inside of each person. Jesus was literally an "image" of God, just the same way that Caesar had resurrected and was ruling in heaven for the people before that. Jesus was simply a NEW image of God to replace the old one of Caesar. This is why I don't trust churches who preach something different. WE are the Son in the trinity. I don't think that Paul would have liked the gospel stories that were written after he died, or, at least not the way the churches have abused them.
None of that changes the fact that evangelical Christians seem to worship Caesar in spirit. They are literally the antichrists who have replaced the image of the Lamb with the Beast.
"For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God."
Romans 8:14
For Paul, "Jesus" was a name for the Christ spirit inside of each person. Jesus was literally an "image" of God, just the same way that Caesar had resurrected and was ruling in heaven for the people before that. Jesus was simply a NEW image of God to replace the old one of Caesar. This is why I don't trust churches who preach something different. WE are the Son in the trinity. I don't think that Paul would have liked the gospel stories that were written after he died, or, at least not the way the churches have abused them.
None of that changes the fact that evangelical Christians seem to worship Caesar in spirit. They are literally the antichrists who have replaced the image of the Lamb with the Beast.
Isn't that part of the Christian belief that every person is born with a sin?
Well, for starters, it didn't sound like you were talking about the doctrine of Original Sin. You said, "God supposedly "punishes" Adam and the proceeding entire mankind by sending them to earth." Original Sin has nothing to do with the notion that anybody (Adam or his posterity) were sent to earth as a punishment, and that's what I thought you were getting at. According to the doctrine of Original Sin, Adam sinned by eating the forbidden fruit and each of us is born bearing the guilt Adam incurred by sinning. At any rate, I'm a Christian and I don't believe that nonsense for one minute. God doesn't punish the innocent, and it's absurd to think that a person is guilty of anything at birth. But I guess this just goes to prove your point, doesn't it? Christianity is a mass of confusion.
There is one body of Christ. One flock. Yet the bible divides that one flock into 2 groups named. The little flock( Luke 12:32) and the great multitude) the reason is because only the little flock is promised heaven in the bible( Rev 14:3) = bought from the earth 144,000 the anointed, the bride of Christ.
The great multitude who were brought through Har- mageddon on earth( Prov 2:21-22- Matt 24:22) will stand before the throne of God, it will be the only remaining rulership on earth( Daniel 2:44) in all of creation. Earth will be turned into a paradise( Eden) over the 1000 year reign of Gods appointed king.( 1Cor 15:24-28( Then Jesus will hand that kingdom back to his God and Father and subject himself)----- forever,
What you just said has nothing to do with Ephesians 4:11-12.
Were you going to answer that question? Or just go off on a tangent by incorrectly eisegeting the other passages you referred to?
A non-starter. Something made up by theologians to hassle over. Theories about the nature of God are just side-tracks to the message.
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