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Old 01-06-2018, 11:59 AM
 
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Do you have a source for this belief?
The scriptures prove it to those whose eyes are opened. As does the Holy Spirit.

Not everything is written down on paper. Not everything has a "source" to link to. Most of it is just Common Sense.

But I think most rational people are aware of this.
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Old 01-06-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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None of that changes the fact that evangelical Christians seem to worship Caesar in spirit. They are literally the antichrists who have replaced the image of the Lamb with the Beast.
interesting point, render unto caesar.
It is the world that produces this conformity.
And the false prophets whom are, "evangelicals", or televangelist possibly. The constant curriculum provided obviously only works for the beast. Even so i personally wouldnt put much effort into lump summing all believers into this category.
For lack of knowledge many are destroyed.
So it is a responsibility for those who have understanding to allow the Faithful to see what has caused their confusion if they were confused in the first place.

Many are plenty educated on the subject of history and have intimate knowledge of how a governing body Has Yeshua as Head.

So, it will be as the parable of the soil for every generation till caesar is destroyed.
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Old 01-06-2018, 12:23 PM
 
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A non-starter. Something made up by theologians to hassle over. Theories about the nature of God are just side-tracks to the message.
Nevermind the fact that Scripture clearly teaches that all 3 members of the Godhead are God...but also clearly teaches that there is ONLY 1 God.
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Old 01-06-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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The scriptures prove it to those whose eyes are opened. As does the Holy Spirit.

Not everything is written down on paper. Not everything has a "source" to link to. Most of it is just Common Sense.

But I think most rational people are aware of this.
IOW, no.
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Old 01-06-2018, 01:18 PM
 
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Believers aren't confused at all. God's program is moving along exactly on time.

Only ONE truly saved group......called "the body of Christ" which will go up in the rapture.......Jesus is the head and Paul is the first member...

Jesus taught a specific group .....Jews

Paul was sent to teach the GENTILES.......very different groups indeed......Gentiles saved by grace

Confusion caused by Jews salvation by FAITH and WORKS.......people love to work and think God will favor the workers. He won't.

Revelation says--one will judged by their works.
James says without works ones faith is worthless.
Jesus began the most important work ever known on earth--Luke 10--Acts 20:20)
The bible teaches--only the little flock( Luke 12:32) is promised heaven-Rev 14:3
No where does it teach the great multitude go to heaven. Jesus gave these this promise---Matt 5:5--Happy are the meek for they will inherit the earth.
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Old 01-06-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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What you just said has nothing to do with Ephesians 4:11-12.

Were you going to answer that question? Or just go off on a tangent by incorrectly eisegeting the other passages you referred to?

My first few words answered it--- But here you go--Even though individuals are different positions they make up ONE body of Christ--Not different religions. There is only one religion on earth that has Jesus.
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Old 01-06-2018, 04:53 PM
 
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IOW, no.
In other words, you have no reverence for the Holy Spirit.
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Old 01-06-2018, 05:08 PM
 
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In other words, you have no reverence for the Holy Spirit.

Even in trinity based translations-- The Father gets worship, Jesus gets worship--Holy spirt-gets 0
The Father has a name-YHWH(Jehovah) -- the son has a name-- Jesus-- Holy spirit-gets 0
The Father gets honor, glory--The son gets,, honor, glory( shared by the Father)--Holy spirit-- gets 0= Gods active force. Not a living being.
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Old 01-06-2018, 05:10 PM
 
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In other words, you have no reverence for the Holy Spirit.
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Old 01-06-2018, 10:23 PM
 
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A non-starter. Something made up by theologians to hassle over. Theories about the nature of God are just side-tracks to the message.
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