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Old 01-16-2018, 07:32 PM
 
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Ok, so who is G-d ransoming people from?...
From sin.
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Old 01-16-2018, 07:45 PM
 
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No one sins by accident...
I will disagree.. SAUL did by going to the witch.. and I think King David deceived himself into believing what he did was not wrong as a matter of fact in psalms David talks about how he was saying how he only sin against God. uriah family would disagree. King or not he murdered someone with intent and took what was not his to take.
and most every king of Judah and Israel after David including Solomon had deceived themselves ..
so you have way underestimate mankind's ability to deceive /our/them/selves.. and thus our great NEED for redemption and a personal encounter with his spirit to heal and restore us as we are obedient to him. .
for that, we need a holy spirit and a person God / and man who understand the pressures of being human. and one that perfected faith for us ..
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:17 PM
 
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From sin.
All one has to do is repent and stop sinning and obey G-dís Torah...
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:19 PM
 
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I will disagree.. SAUL did by going to the witch.. and I think King David deceived himself into believing what he did was not wrong as a matter of fact in psalms David talks about how he was saying how he only sin against God. uriah family would disagree. King or not he murdered someone with intent and took what was not his to take.
and most every king of Judah and Israel after David including Solomon had deceived themselves ..
so you have way underestimate mankind's ability to deceive /our/them/selves.. and thus our great NEED for redemption and a personal encounter with his spirit to heal and restore us as we are obedient to him. .
for that, we need a holy spirit and a person God / and man who understand the pressures of being human. and one that perfected faith for us ..
SAUL knew that he wasnít supposed to go to the witch...
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Old 01-17-2018, 08:20 AM
 
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Well, that is what would happen.

I really do agree with that line of thinking. You just don't understand what the flesh and blood is. The ransom is from God and given to those who serve Him in spirit and in truth.
Tell me what the flesh and blood is please.
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Old 02-01-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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There are 3 sections of heaven, Jesus was always speaking of the Zoe Kingdom.


The Temple was built to shadow what the 3 sections of heaven are, what those 3 books are, what those 3 sections of the temple shadow.


We see people saved and walking into the Zoe kingdom only to be turned around and escorted out of that Zoe kingdom. We see this in many scriptures showing the difference between 3.
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