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Old 03-31-2018, 09:14 AM
 
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GINOLJC, to all.

First, God tells the people how he is going to save them and in what manner, listen. the answer is in Hosea and Gomer children. Hosea 1:6 & 7 "And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And God said unto him, Call her name Loruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away. 7 "But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the LORD their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen".

this is plain as DAY. some Jews were LOOKING for a messiah riding on a white horse to conquer the Romans as with other human "saviors" of old. that's the mistake of the Jews, looking for a human savior for physical relief from physical bondage. when in fact their physical bondage was a spiritual condition called "sin". so God himself put an end to sin. and that's the Jewish problem.

Here in Hosea, God clearly spells out what he is going to do. he's going to deliever them from their sins. read it again, " and will save them by the LORD their God".

PCY

Hoshea - Hosea - Chapter 1

6 And she conceived again and bore a daughter, and He said to him: Name her Lo-ruhamah, for I will not continue to grant clemency to the house of Israel, but I will mete out their portion to them.
I will not continue to grant clemency Heb.: אֲרַחֵם, like לְרַחֵם, to grant clemency.


but I will mete out their portion to them: I will mete out to them the portion of their cup and their deed. This expression is like (Gen. 43: 34), “And he gave out portions (וַיִּשָּׂא מַשְׂאֹת).”

7 But to the house of Judah will I grant clemency, and I will save them by the Lord their God, but I will not save them with the bow, with the sword, with war, with steeds, or with riders.
But to the house of Judah will I grant clemency: after I terminate the kingdom of Israel, for after the ten tribes were exiled, the house of Judah was the object of clemency from Hezekiah until Zedakiah.

The reason that we are looking for a human Mashiach is because that is what G-d has said he will be...This has nothing to do with the far future nor the Mashiach...
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Old 03-31-2018, 09:40 AM
 
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GINOLJC, to all.

First, God tells the people how he is going to save them and in what manner, listen. the answer is in Hosea and Gomer children. Hosea 1:6 & 7 "And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And God said unto him, Call her name Loruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away. 7 "But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the LORD their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen".

this is plain as DAY. some Jews were LOOKING for a messiah riding on a white horse to conquer the Romans as with other human "saviors" of old. that's the mistake of the Jews, looking for a human savior for physical relief from physical bondage. when in fact their physical bondage was a spiritual condition called "sin". so God himself put an end to sin. and that's the Jewish problem.

Here in Hosea, God clearly spells out what he is going to do. he's going to deliever them from their sins. read it again, " and will save them by the LORD their God".

PCY
That doesn't mean God almighty is coming down, Jesus was a human, we make the claim of his humanity because of the fact that if he was not human, and not tested as a human, he couldn't have walked in the law for anyone.
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Old 03-31-2018, 09:44 AM
 
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GINOLJC, to all.

First, God tells the people how he is going to save them and in what manner, listen. the answer is in Hosea and Gomer children. Hosea 1:6 & 7 "And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And God said unto him, Call her name Loruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away. 7 "But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the LORD their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen".

this is plain as DAY. some Jews were LOOKING for a messiah riding on a white horse to conquer the Romans as with other human "saviors" of old. that's the mistake of the Jews, looking for a human savior for physical relief from physical bondage. when in fact their physical bondage was a spiritual condition called "sin". so God himself put an end to sin. and that's the Jewish problem.

Here in Hosea, God clearly spells out what he is going to do. he's going to deliever them from their sins. read it again, " and will save them by the LORD their God".

PCY
This is showing the end of the ten tribes of Israel for taking on Pagan ways...... NOW, when a Gentile converts to the ways of God and repents of his paganism, he can join God's people who you PROVE, were already saved when Jesus came because God promises us and assures us that he will save Judah, but not Israel.
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Old 03-31-2018, 12:02 PM
 
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GINOLJC, to all.

First, God tells the people how he is going to save them and in what manner, listen. the answer is in Hosea and Gomer children. Hosea 1:6 & 7 "And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And God said unto him, Call her name Loruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away. 7 "But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the LORD their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen".

this is plain as DAY. some Jews were LOOKING for a messiah riding on a white horse to conquer the Romans as with other human "saviors" of old. that's the mistake of the Jews, looking for a human savior for physical relief from physical bondage. when in fact their physical bondage was a spiritual condition called "sin". so God himself put an end to sin. and that's the Jewish problem.

Here in Hosea, God clearly spells out what he is going to do. he's going to deliever them from their sins. read it again, " and will save them by the LORD their God".

PCY
"this is plain as DAY. some Jews were LOOKING for a messiah riding on a white horse to conquer the Romans as with other human "saviors" of old."
No,
You are only listening to and repeating the modern version of sorcery.
What you have yet to see is that antichrist(lawless) Have been at this for thousands of yrs.
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Old 03-31-2018, 12:24 PM
 
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Answer:The Water of Blessing flows into the land that is...

Here is what Adonai says:


“Stand at the crossroads and look;
ask about the ancient paths,
‘Which one is the good way?’
Take it, and you will find rest for your souls.



For here is what Adonai says:

“Sing with joy for Ya‘akov!
shout for the chief of the nations!
Proclaim your praise, and say:
‘Adonai! You have saved your people,
the remnant of Isra’el!’
7 (8) Look! I am bringing them from the land in the north,
gathering them from the far ends of the earth;
among them are the blind and lame,
women with children, women in labor,
all together, a vast throng
returning here.
8 (9) They will come weeping and praying
as I bring them back.
I will lead them by streams of water
on smooth paths, so that they won’t stumble.



For I am a father to Isra’el,
and Efrayim is my firstborn son.”
Where is the blood of the Lamb


}The Lord has done it this very day;
}let us rejoice today and be glad.
} Lord, save us!
}Lord, grant us fruitfullness!
} Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.

As a Blessing im glad to hear that others have felt.
A land of Honey freely given to the courageous men who walked humbly and worshiped in truth and spirit.

Fruitfulness flowing through the land
"7) Tranquility ("date"): Like everything else, struggle has a flip-side: the Blessings of tranquility. Even deeper than its "olive" lies the "date" of the soul: its core of tranquil perfection which nothing—neither the turmoils of the spirit, the vicissitudes of society, nor the upheavals of history—can disturb or even touch. And this well of harmony doesn't just sit there in the inner recesses of our soul—we have the power to bore down into ourselves, to access it and tap it, to create for ourselves a space of immutable truth and perfect peace amidst the storms that batter our lives..."



Moshe wrote down all the words of Adonai. He rose early in the morning, built an altar at the base of the mountain and set upright twelve large stones to represent the twelve tribes of Isra’el.

5 He sent the young men of the people of Isra’el to offer burnt offerings and sacrifice peace offerings of oxen to Adonai.

Eliyahu took twelve stones, in keeping with the number of tribes of the sons of Ya‘akov, to whom the word of Adonai had come, saying, “Your name is to be Isra’el.” 32 With the stones he built an altar in the name of Adonai.
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Old 03-31-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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This is showing the end of the ten tribes of Israel for taking on Pagan ways...... NOW, when a Gentile converts to the ways of God and repents of his paganism, he can join God's people who you PROVE, were already saved when Jesus came because God promises us and assures us that he will save Judah, but not Israel.
may i make a suggestion.
i believe there is a language discrepancy,.
Where you use the word convert, there is a lacking of clarity.

With Clarity Show them that the Lord Says Acknowledge His Son whom so many have denied.

Teach your children
right from wrong,
and when they are grown
they will still do right.
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Old 03-31-2018, 01:38 PM
 
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I suspect it is that Jews have been taught that they have a special relationship with God that is not shared with any others.
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And there shows your jealousy...Hashem is our G-d after all...Christians just co-opted Him...
You have it back to front, jealousy is YOUR God, mine is agape love the God of Jesus.
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Old 03-31-2018, 01:45 PM
 
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You have it back to front, jealousy is YOUR God, mine is agape love the God of Jesus.
And has absolutely zero to do with Judaism, right?...
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Old 03-31-2018, 01:56 PM
 
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You have it back to front, jealousy is YOUR God, mine is agape love the God of Jesus.
Ignore him mystic.
Love and the Torah of Spirit are a given.
Everyone knows when their child acts with sincere generosity.

The Fruits of the Spirit acknowledged by the meek is an abundance of Joy in remembering who gives increase.
An oil of gladness in all languages is the same.
Compassion is never overlooked by the Most High.

Have you ever heard of chesed?
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Old 03-31-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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may i make a suggestion.
i believe there is a language discrepancy,.
Where you use the word convert, there is a lacking of clarity.

With Clarity Show them that the Lord Says Acknowledge His Son whom so many have denied.

Teach your children
right from wrong,
and when they are grown
they will still do right.
I don't believe they have to acknowledge Jesus at all, and that is also explained in Romans with the reasons why. Jesus came to betroth Gentiles to a Jew that they could be added to the nation when they converted to the religion of God, Jews practice the religion of God, and they aren't like any other people in the world, they are saved no matter what in my eyes, and that is what God shows in very many places, that because they have his name and keep his ways, they are his.


Besides this, the greatest promises in the bible are to a Gentile, not a Jew. If the Gentile does what pleases God in blessing Israel. The Gentile is promised UNBELIEVABLE things if he would only choose to serve Israel, and Israel IS the unbelieving Jew.


If I break down and look at porn it is rare but it happens, it is the greatest feeling in the world and I just love it until I stop, and then I hate myself for having fallen, but it is not me who does those things, it is Ephraim.


I am Ephraim and I am Judah, and these are the flesh and the spirit accordingly.


My greatest desires is that the flesh would serve the spirit instead of the spirit being present when the flesh wants it's way, and I have cried out to God that I may have strength and power over the flesh.


If I could just get Ephraim the flesh to serve the spirit, then I would be holy, but this is a hard thing to do.




Should the flesh serve the spirit or should the spirit serve the flesh?


I tell you a great secret, make it true in the physical realm, and it will come true in the spiritual realm.


Ephraim is a Gentile and Judah is a Jew.
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