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This is not surprising. Jews have been rejecting Jesus Christ for thousands of years and apparently also reject Jews who have received him as their Savior. This is nothing new. I don't think the mass of Jews will change until Christ comes again. Until then, they will continue to reject him and the gospel of grace. What I am seeing is that many Jews hate a gospel of grace that includes others, most especially "gentiles". Why do Jews despise gentiles? Is it some type of pride problem?
Maybe it is from the Gentile taking the religion of God claiming it is now their religion accept that what God calls unrighteous, the Christian calls righteous, and what God calls righteous, the Christians calls unrighteous. The Gentile takes the religion of God and does away with all God's laws, all God's Sabbaths, and all of God's feasts and traditions, they bring in lawlessness and the worship of other Gods, and while they practice their pagan holy days, they want to stick God's name on it, or the name of Jesus on it, when Jesus walked in the law, he didn't come doing away with the law and he said so. He even told us that whoever wont keep the least of the laws and then teaches others not to keep the laws will be the least in the kingdom of heaven, but hey, they are in their somewhere.
The Gentile wants to take everything that is Jewish to do away with it, or they take traditions and laws that have been loved and kept for thousands of years and they try and pervert them into something entirely different.
Just like obtaining the seal of God between your eyes and upon your right hand. This is the law of God, and the law states that God will put his protective seal in your forehead on Rosh Hashanah to keep you from the day of judgment on Yom Kippur, but those who keep pagan holy days are sealed with the Babylonian origins of their holy days right between their eyes.
You can't change what it means to obtain the seal of God between your eyes, it is the law, it is written in stone.
Gentiles take a Jew and they strip away anything that makes him look like a Jew, and then they make laws against the Jew, they actually outlaw God, and then they claim to be the new Israel lol, that is the shocker. After they bear witnesses against God and his son, after they outlaw the ways of God and the religion of God, they now claim to be Jews when they are not Jews.
Maybe it is from the Gentile taking the religion of God claiming it is now their religion accept that what God calls unrighteous, the Christian calls righteous, and what God calls righteous, the Christians calls unrighteous. The Gentile takes the religion of God and does away with all God's laws, all God's Sabbaths, and all of God's feasts and traditions, they bring in lawlessness and the worship of other Gods, and while they practice their pagan holy days, they want to stick God's name on it, or the name of Jesus on it, when Jesus walked in the law, he didn't come doing away with the law and he said so. He even told us that whoever wont keep the least of the laws and then teaches others not to keep the laws will be the least in the kingdom of heaven, but hey, they are in their somewhere.
The Gentile wants to take everything that is Jewish to do away with it, or they take traditions and laws that have been loved and kept for thousands of years and they try and pervert them into something entirely different.
Just like obtaining the seal of God between your eyes and upon your right hand. This is the law of God, and the law states that God will put his protective seal in your forehead on Rosh Hashanah to keep you from the day of judgment on Yom Kippur, but those who keep pagan holy days are sealed with the Babylonian origins of their holy days right between their eyes.
You can't change what it means to obtain the seal of God between your eyes, it is the law, it is written in stone.
Gentiles take a Jew and they strip away anything that makes him look like a Jew, and then they make laws against the Jew, they actually outlaw God, and then they claim to be the new Israel lol, that is the shocker. After they bear witnesses against God and his son, after they outlaw the ways of God and the religion of God, they now claim to be Jews when they are not Jews.
So you are angry with Christians and very much dislike Christians. I guess that is why you post here on the Christian forum. What has your hatred of Christians got to do with discussing Christianity? If you love the Jewish religion, how about staying over on the Jewish forum. Can't you bash Christians on your own forum?
So you are angry with Christians and very much dislike Christians. I guess that is why you post here on the Christian forum. What has your hatred of Christians got to do with discussing Christianity? If you love the Jewish religion, how about staying over on the Jewish forum. Can't you bash Christians on your own forum?
I am a Christian, just because you are a denier of historical fact doesn't disqualify me from being a Christian. I follow a Jewish Jesus who came walking in the law, you present a non Jewish false prophet who came teaching against the law although we have the words of Jesus himself, you wont accept what Jesus says himself, you deny history and you flat out think Jesus was wrong in what he said of the law.
You present lawless false prophets who came to show the father as a barbarian as you continuously fight against the word of God itself, everything called of God or that is worshipped of God.
You take a Jew and slander him as if Jesus came teaching people against the laws of God or that he came teaching you paganism, and this is because you deny historical fact of Christianity being a legal sect of Judaism for over 100 years.
This Christianity you are in looks nothing like the first Christianity because you wont admit historical fact of Christianity being a legal sect of Judaism.
Not only do you fight against the Lord of hosts and his son every day, you speak ill of the Jews just like everyone before you, and they remain the only people who follow the religion of God and the religion of God's son.
Jesus has 7 feasts, can you name them and tell us what Jesus did for you in these feasts, or are the ways of Christ so disgusting that you don't even want to learn of them?
You are inserting yourself into the religion of Judaism when you quote the New Testament written to Gentile converts of Judaism, you insert your religion in there when your religion didn't even exist until after Constantine outlawed the ways of God some 300 years after Jesus died.
You speak ill of the word of God and his ways, and most of all, you speak against his people for continuing to keep the ways that God demanded them to keep, and you aren't just speaking against a religion, you are trying to put a people's culture and heritage in the worst light possible, all the while making some bold claim that Messiah brought you a covenant when Messiah ONLY brings Judah and Ephraim a New covenant, which one do you claim to be again?
You aren't Judah and neither are you Ephraim, we know who Ephraim and Judah are, and we know that Judah and Ephraim LOVE AND KEPP THE LAWS UNDER THIS NEW COVENANT.
A New Covenant Jeremiah 31 31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Gentiles came converting to the ways of Christ under a promise to the house of Israel, the ten lost tribes. They came repenting of their paganism which killed the ten lost tribes, and they became betrothed to a Jew in order to be redeemed under the name of Israel.
100 years after Jesus died, the church made sure that no Gentile was being added to the covenant of Ephraim and Judah. The only way a Gentile came under the covenant of Jesus was through a marriage to a Jew to become one with Jews, and to have the same worship system in common.
When Gentiles went back to their paganism, they stopped being Ephraim, and stopped coming under the covenant of Jesus and the Jews have stood alone all this time waiting for the return of the lost ten tribes of Israel, Gentiles who come and repent of their lawlessness and their paganism just as the Prodigal son MUST COME.
you want to look at facts of history? Let's look at the historical facts of Christianity and antisemitism and the hostility of Christian Churches, Christian groups, and by Christians in general to Judaism and the Jewish people
"Christian rhetoric and antipathy towards Jews developed in the early years of Christianity and was reinforced by the belief that Jews had killed Christ and ever increasing anti-Jewish measures over the ensuing centuries. The action taken by Christians against Jews included acts of ostracism, humiliation and violence, and murder culminating in the Holocaust
Christian anti-Semitism has been attributed to numerous factors including theological differences competition between Church and Synagogue the Christian drive for converts,decreed by the Great Commission misunderstanding of Jewish beliefs and practices, and a perceived Jewish hostility toward Christians. These attitudes were reinforced in Christian preaching, art and popular teaching for two millennia, containing contempt for Jews,as well as statutes which were designed to humiliate and stigmatise Jews.
Modern antisemitism has been described as primarily hatred against Jews as a race with its modern expression rooted in 18th century racial theories, while anti-Judaism is described as hostility to Jewish religion, but in Western Christianity it effectively merged into antisemitism during the 12th century
Scholars have debated how Christian antisemitism played a role in the Nazi Third Reich World War II and the Holocaust. The Holocaust has driven many within Christianity to reflect on the relationship between Christian theology, practices, and that genocide.
let's also look at recent scholarly studies on antisemitism in the New Testament.
Professor Lillian C. Freudmann, author of Antisemitism in the New Testament (University Press of America, 1994) has published a detailed study of the description of Jews in the New Testament, and the historical effects that such passages have had in the Christian community throughout history. Similar studies of such verses have been made by both Christian and Jewish scholars, including, Professors Clark Williamsom (Christian Theological Seminary), Hyam Maccoby (The Leo Baeck Institute), Norman A. Beck (Texas Lutheran College), and Michael Berenbaum (Georgetown University).
Most rabbis feel that these verses are antisemitic, and many Christian scholars, in America and Europe, have reached the same conclusion. Another example is John Dominic Crossan's 1995 Who Killed Jesus? Exposing the Roots of Anti-Semitism in the Gospel Story of the Death of Jesus. And biblical scholars have also been accused of holding antisemitic beliefs. Bruce J. Malina, founding member of The Context Group, has come under criticism for going as far as to deny the Semitic ancestry of modern Israelis."
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In addition, A. Roy Eckardt, a pioneer in the field of Jewish-Christian relations, asserted that the foundation of antisemitism andresponsibility for the Holocaust lies ultimately in the New Testament. Eckardt insisted that Christian repentance must include a reexamination of basic theological attitudes toward Jews and the New Testament in order to deal effectively with anti-Semitism.
you want to look at facts of history? Let's look at the historical facts of Christianity and antisemitism and the hostility of Christian Churches, Christian groups, and by Christians in general to Judaism and the Jewish people
"Christian rhetoric and antipathy towards Jews developed in the early years of Christianity and was reinforced by the belief that Jews had killed Christ and ever increasing anti-Jewish measures over the ensuing centuries. The action taken by Christians against Jews included acts of ostracism, humiliation and violence, and murder culminating in the Holocaust
Christian anti-Semitism has been attributed to numerous factors including theological differences competition between Church and Synagogue the Christian drive for converts,decreed by the Great Commission misunderstanding of Jewish beliefs and practices, and a perceived Jewish hostility toward Christians. These attitudes were reinforced in Christian preaching, art and popular teaching for two millennia, containing contempt for Jews,as well as statutes which were designed to humiliate and stigmatise Jews.
Modern antisemitism has been described as primarily hatred against Jews as a race with its modern expression rooted in 18th century racial theories, while anti-Judaism is described as hostility to Jewish religion, but in Western Christianity it effectively merged into antisemitism during the 12th century
Scholars have debated how Christian antisemitism played a role in the Nazi Third Reich World War II and the Holocaust. The Holocaust has driven many within Christianity to reflect on the relationship between Christian theology, practices, and that genocide.
let's also look at recent scholarly studies on antisemitism in the New Testament.
Professor Lillian C. Freudmann, author of Antisemitism in the New Testament (University Press of America, 1994) has published a detailed study of the description of Jews in the New Testament, and the historical effects that such passages have had in the Christian community throughout history. Similar studies of such verses have been made by both Christian and Jewish scholars, including, Professors Clark Williamsom (Christian Theological Seminary), Hyam Maccoby (The Leo Baeck Institute), Norman A. Beck (Texas Lutheran College), and Michael Berenbaum (Georgetown University).
Most rabbis feel that these verses are antisemitic, and many Christian scholars, in America and Europe, have reached the same conclusion. Another example is John Dominic Crossan's 1995 Who Killed Jesus? Exposing the Roots of Anti-Semitism in the Gospel Story of the Death of Jesus. And biblical scholars have also been accused of holding antisemitic beliefs. Bruce J. Malina, founding member of The Context Group, has come under criticism for going as far as to deny the Semitic ancestry of modern Israelis."
The issue of antisemitism has nothing to do with the issue at hand which is whether Jesus is the Jewish Messiah. Jesus both claimed to be the Messiah and was recognized by many Jews, beginning with the apostles, as being the Messiah. That is an historical fact.
The issue of antisemitism has nothing to do with the issue at hand which is whether Jesus is the Jewish Messiah. Jesus both claimed to be the Messiah and was recognized by many Jews, beginning with the apostles, as being the Messiah. That is an historical fact.
Has everything to do with it Mike. The church outlawed the ways of God and the church became the worst oppressors against Jews, the biggest haters of Jews whose hatred led right up unto the holocaust. The first Christianity were Gentiles who LOVED Jews, who LOVED the Torah, and now it has become anti-Semitic.
The first Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism, and when Gentiles became lawless to then invent their own worship system and laws, they became the greatest force against the people of God there has ever been. The very foundations of Christianity is Anti-Semitic when you begin insulting the Jews and you hate them so much that you outlaw the ways of God. A gentile caught trying to follow a Jewish Messiah was hated worse than the Jew.
Has everything to do with it Mike. The church outlawed the ways of God and the church became the worst oppressors against Jews, the biggest haters of Jews whose hatred led right up unto the holocaust. The first Christianity were Gentiles who LOVED Jews, who LOVED the Torah, and now it has become anti-Semitic.
The first Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism, and when Gentiles became lawless to then invent their own worship system and laws, they became the greatest force against the people of God there has ever been. The very foundations of Christianity is Anti-Semitic when you begin insulting the Jews and you hate them so much that you outlaw the ways of God. A gentile caught trying to follow a Jewish Messiah was hated worse than the Jew.
The issue of antisemitism has absolutely nothing to do with whether Jesus is the Jewish Messiah. They are two totally different issues. Jesus either was or wasn't the Messiah independently of peoples attitudes toward the Jews. Again, the first Christians were Jews who recognized that Jesus was the Messiah.
Has everything to do with it Mike. The church outlawed the ways of God and the church became the worst oppressors against Jews, the biggest haters of Jews whose hatred led right up unto the holocaust. The first Christianity were Gentiles who LOVED Jews, who LOVED the Torah, and now it has become anti-Semitic.
The first Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism, and when Gentiles became lawless to then invent their own worship system and laws, they became the greatest force against the people of God there has ever been. The very foundations of Christianity is Anti-Semitic when you begin insulting the Jews and you hate them so much that you outlaw the ways of God. A gentile caught trying to follow a Jewish Messiah was hated worse than the Jew.
You do not follow the ways of Christ. You are filled with rage and hate gentiles. You seek to convert Christians to follow Judaism which has as many sects as Christianity. You are obsessed with "following/keeping the law" which no one can do.
The issue of antisemitism has nothing to do with the issue at hand which is whether Jesus is the Jewish Messiah. Jesus both claimed to be the Messiah and was recognized by many Jews, beginning with the apostles, as being the Messiah. That is an historical fact.
you are speaking for Crstnty.
the links you post are speaking for Crstnty.
the people you quote are speaking for Crstnty.
messiah for Judaism, no
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You do not follow the ways of Christ. You are filled with rage and hate gentiles. You seek to convert Christians to follow Judaism which has as many sects as Christianity. You are obsessed with "following/keeping the law" which no one can do. 
