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View Poll Results: Is it wrong for Christians to use Marijuana if it is legal where they live?
YES 13 23.64%
NO 42 76.36%
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Old 10-07-2018, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Finn believes cannabis is a killer---despite evidence I've provided that opioid use declines states where cannabis is legal.
No lies please. It was Nate who said pot is on par with cigarettes.
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Old 10-07-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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Finn believes cannabis is a killer---despite evidence I've provided that opioid use declines states where cannabis is legal.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomange.../#3d29c7e35696

Please note that the above study was released in April of this year.

Total deaths from inducing too much cannabis? ZERO. NADA. Not one, ever. People fall asleep long before they can overdose. One study I read stated it takes 20,000 times as much THC as is in one cannabis cigarette to kill a person.

But finn doesn't have any sense of understanding what others suffer, and is perfectly happy with them dying from pharmaceuticals.

As I've stated over and over and will continue to do so---his lack of humanity is both disturbing AND appalling.

In Colorado our current governor opposed legalizing marijuana. But it passed and he followed the will of the people.
Governor who called legalization 'reckless' now says Colorado's pot industry is working - Los Angeles Times

In addition, Colorado has again taken a first step in the use of medical marijuana. In June of this year a bill passed our legislature that allows medical cannabis to be given by school nurses for children whose parents consent or request the same.

https://hightimes.com/news/school-nu...ical-cannabis/

So, finn can keep on killing people with pharmaceutical drugs and refusing to admit that ALCOHOL, not cannabis, is the cause for the mass majority of auto accident deaths, despite cannabis being legally available to over 60% of the people in the United States, but it only shows up more of his hypocrisy and lack of empathy for those who suffer.
There is nothing wrong with someone using pharmaceutical drugs like opioids either!!! They are just derivatives of opium, the poppy plant.

Its like anything else, to be used in moderation, they can be used medicinally or recreational, nothing wrong either way about it.

Imo, the LAWS REGULATING these drugs are more wrong/sinful than someone using them, its not a Govts place to create or regulate such things in the first place, in other words, this is something 'Caesar' cannot ask of the people, its not his to ask for.
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Old 10-07-2018, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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I just put off and delay getting on Methadone, but that is exactly where I will end up with these laws, right now I take kratom everyday but that doesn't help that much and it's just a matter of time for me..I figure I might have ten years after starting methadone.
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Old 10-07-2018, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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There is nothing wrong with someone using pharmaceutical drugs like opioids either!!! They are just derivatives of opium, the poppy plant.

Its like anything else, to be used in moderation, they can be used medicinally or recreational, nothing wrong either way about it.

Imo, the LAWS REGULATING these drugs are more wrong/sinful than someone using them, its not a Govts place to create or regulate such things in the first place, in other words, this is something 'Caesar' cannot ask of the people, its not his to ask for.
There were several dozen pill mills pretty close to our house in South Florida, and during the peak time they sold millions of pills and lot of people got addicted, and many died of overdoses, so regulation is necessary.
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Old 10-07-2018, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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You can have all the MRI's in the world, but if you don't have a primary doctor who is also a pain specialist, then you just wont be able to get any pain meds no matter how messed up that they know you are. If anyone ever finds a primary doctor who is also a pain specialist, they don't ever take on new clients, those regulations push people to extremes, people who have real pain, elderly people, all kinds of people with messed up bodies. I don't intend to live my life without sleep, it's just not worth living in pain with no sleep, I know I break the law sometimes, but sometimes laws are stupid, and I don't see sin in it exceptt for breaking the law, we are supposed to observe the laws.
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:25 AM
 
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There were several dozen pill mills pretty close to our house in South Florida, and during the peak time they sold millions of pills and lot of people got addicted, and many died of overdoses, so regulation is necessary.
Well, now that pill mills are regulated, all those former pill poppers made the switch to heroin, (I know this for a fact because it is the same thing I did as well as many people I knew at the time). Drug dealers were being pushed LOTS of heroin around that time, I knew a handful of dealers, they had never seen anything like this, its like the whole thing was planned ahead of time...and this was nationwide too!

Overall, it was a way to create criminals where there was none before, and more importantly to cut out the competition for the drug cartels (addicts getting their fix from pill mills or doctors means less people demanding cartel supplied drugs)

Plus, if you look at the statistics, MANY more people die from tobacco and alcohol than opiate prescription drugs, even before the tough laws went into effect, it was a relatively small percentage that abused pain pills.
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Old 10-08-2018, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Well, now that pill mills are regulated, all those former pill poppers made the switch to heroin, (I know this for a fact because it is the same thing I did as well as many people I knew at the time). Drug dealers were being pushed LOTS of heroin around that time, I knew a handful of dealers, they had never seen anything like this, its like the whole thing was planned ahead of time...and this was nationwide too!

Overall, it was a way to create criminals where there was none before, and more importantly to cut out the competition for the drug cartels (addicts getting their fix from pill mills or doctors means less people demanding cartel supplied drugs)

Plus, if you look at the statistics, MANY more people die from tobacco and alcohol than opiate prescription drugs, even before the tough laws went into effect, it was a relatively small percentage that abused pain pills.
The point remains that it became a major problem due to under-regulation. Without regulation people flocked to those pill mills to get their drugs, and they became addicted.
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Old 10-08-2018, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I suppose there are people who would prefer others to suffer and live in pain as many are now being under medicated, and fear mongering has never really served a good purpose.
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Old 10-09-2018, 06:00 PM
 
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Most of the whole debate of weed is wrong came from the fact that it was illegal in most of this country for the longest, so when people in church would say they use it, they would get the trashing and hear they doing illegal activities and that is wrong.

Now that some states have it legal to use, is it wrong for a Christian to smoke weed. Ive come across youtube videos and see people on their social media pages that brag about doing it and brag about their faith too in other posts, but its technically legal in their state, so no different than smoking a cigarette in their eyes im guessing. I dont smoke anything or ever plan to, but im sure I will be accused of judging if I told another believer not to.

So is it wrong for Christians to use marijuana if they live in a legal state or should they not be using it at all (recreational use wise)?


In Genesis God gave man dominion over all the plants.
At Galations 5:19-21--Paul mentions spiritism, the greek word is Farmacia. At Galations it says those that practice those sins--will NOT enter Gods kingdom. At 1Corinthians 6:9-11--it teaches about drunkenness amongst other things, will NOT enter Gods kingdom

Its a tough call.
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:08 AM
 
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The point remains that it became a major problem due to under-regulation. Without regulation people flocked to those pill mills to get their drugs, and they became addicted.
A major problem? Actually the percentages of those abusing pain pills was very low, compared to the number of people who took them in general, smoking cigarettes harms MANY more than abusing pain pills ever did.

NO drug law has ever been about protecting health or safety, that is a scam they rely on people falling for, dont you think its kind of strange how consistent the flow of drugs is, despite all their 'aggressive' policing? Cmon, numerous cities/states have major heroin epidemics going on! LOL
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