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Old 03-29-2018, 10:44 PM
 
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Trying to understand this story. Of God commanding Abraham to bear a child with his slave Hagar.
And did he really favor one child over the other? meaning the child he had with Sara vs the child he had with Hagar. Thanks so much !
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:14 AM
 
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Did G-d indeed command Avraham to do it?...
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Old 03-30-2018, 05:03 AM
 
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Abraham lived some 500 years before Moses and the ten commandments which God gave which said ``do not commit adultery ``........ Then Abraham did not believe the Word of God here which God said He would have child where Him and his wife where in their nineties , so He took His servant and got a son through Her which was Ishmael.......... So would you believe God if He said you would have a child where you were in your nineties ? ...... See God had a plan and Abraham lived for One hundred and seventy five years
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Old 03-30-2018, 06:38 AM
 
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Trying to understand this story. Of God commanding Abraham to bear a child with his slave Hagar.
And did he really favor one child over the other? meaning the child he had with Sara vs the child he had with Hagar. Thanks so much !

Where does God say take Hagar and commit adultry? That was Sarah’s idea. God says one man one woman.

Matthew

And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one’s wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female

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Old 03-30-2018, 09:01 AM
 
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I just truly don't understand why madkind always blames God first.. we all have done it and will do it FIRST.. very first reaction .. why ?


it can't be the 3 fallen people who are involved in the story (besides God) fault? why is it always His fault first in the fallen persons mind?
maybe because it is fallen and already in hell.
and we have to ask him to get our mind-body soul ( Heart ..our seat of emotions and logic ) to GET and bring those OUT of hell for us.
maybe that is what the cross was about .. Jesus reaching into hell and bring out those who want to live His LIFE .. and have his LIFE living in them.. could it be that simple.. having their heart ( mind body soul, seat of emotions) washed in the Word and in HIs truths.. so that we can LIVE !!
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:33 AM
 
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Trying to understand this story. Of God commanding Abraham to bear a child with his slave Hagar.
And did he really favor one child over the other? meaning the child he had with Sara vs the child he had with Hagar. Thanks so much !


that's not adultery
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Old 03-30-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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that's not adultery
Sharp.
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Old 03-30-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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Trying to understand this story. Of God commanding Abraham to bear a child with his slave Hagar.
And did he really favor one child over the other? meaning the child he had with Sara vs the child he had with Hagar. Thanks so much !
God didn't command him to do that. He just did it because Sarah and him were getting nervous that they were getting old and hadn't had babies yet.
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Old 03-30-2018, 06:19 PM
 
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Thank you everyone for commenting. My eyes are getting so weak,born with many disabiities and my computers sound shut off. So I cannot listen to the bible anymore but watched a movie at work (while on the clock) and wondered how accurate it is.

Totally forgot the 10 commandments were given later so that makes sense. Without the law, there is no damnation. And even in the movie (which are often wrong) it shows Sara as being the instigator of it all.
So my wording God wanted it wasn't correct either.

My ebay order came today. Hoping when I plug in my blue tooth headphones it will allow me to hear the computer again. It's a macbook air, so not that old imho. Not ready yet to buy a new one but am saving.
Per our son, it's best to wait until Apple comes out with a new one.

Thanks so much everyone
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:22 PM
 
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that's not adultery

Of course it was. Even Pharoah knew about God’s command about marriage.

Genesis 12 18-19
Why didn’t you tell me she was your wife? 19 Why did you say, ‘She is my sister,’ so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!”
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