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I have no doubt you believe this.UR believers believe that that God taught UR through various writers,and have amply provided scriptures to support this as well.
But I do not believe that there is any believer in ET that has not at some point in his/her life questioned the doctrine of ET in the privacy of their own minds, because it is just natural for any thinking person to do so. Most instantly recoil in fear at having had such thoughts, and return to believing that God will allow most of humanity to suffer never ending torment, because they cant bring themselves to gather the courage to consider how much it may not make sense spiritually, or whether the doctrine they have been taught is actually supported by the whole of the Bible and what we see in Christ.
No hate, no vengeance, and no fear. We simply believe what Jesus preached.
With the bit about eternal torment added to it. Can you provide a scripture that Jesus or any of the disciples said salvation is being saved from eternal torment?. Thought not, i have been asking for years and not one fundamentalists as ever coughed one up.
No hate, no vengeance, and no fear. We simply believe what Jesus preached.
As do UR believers. Their baseline for interpreting scripture is that God is simply too great, too powerful , and too loving to allow eternal torment and the permanent loss of most souls ever born. Your side, well.....
I have no doubt you believe this.UR believers believe that that God taught UR through various writers,and have amply provided scriptures to support this as well.
But I do not believe that there is any believer in ET that has not at some point in his/her life questioned the doctrine of ET in the privacy of their own minds, because it is just natural for any thinking person to do so. Most instantly recoil in fear at having had such thoughts, and return to believing that God will allow most of humanity to suffer never ending torment, because they cant bring themselves to gather the courage to consider how much it may not make sense spiritually, or whether the doctrine they have been taught is actually supported by the whole of the Bible and what we see in Christ.
Of course, but when I told you I was an adult now and able to consider things, you claimed I was indoctronated.
Sorry, Finn, but the pure, unadulterated truth is that it is NOT possible to have a non-vengeful, loving, and compassionate heart and accept the idea of Eternal Torment for ANY reason. I judge no one. But I definitely judge the concept of Eternal Torment no matter who accepts it.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
Oh for crying out loud, here we go again. Mystics claim-and-deny cycle.
Don't play stupid.
Yes, you are judging the hearts of those people who disagree with you on the matter. Plain and simple.
Or are you saying they are in agreement with you on the matter?
Sheesh....
You refuse to read. It is NOT POSSIBLE to countenance the Eternal Torment of anyone for any reason if you have a loving, non-vengeful and compassionate heart.
As do UR believers. Their baseline for interpreting scripture is that God is simply too great, too powerful , and too loving to allow eternal torment and the permanent loss of most souls ever born. Your side, well.....
You have an incomplete understanding of God. God is holy, pure. His justice must be satisfied. Without repentance and faith, one remains separated from God. See Luke 16.
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And what we’re supposed to do about it. Preach!
