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Old 04-22-2018, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Doesn’t have anything to do with love of neighbor or God. It is about respect and actuaL FEAR of the incredible power of the Lord.

Anyone with a military background is instructed how to handle guns. You are taught specifically to use a firearm and rifle. Carelessness is not tolerated; Respect the weapon. Being shot at will garner incredible fear.
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Old 04-22-2018, 01:26 PM
 
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Doesn’t have anything to do with love of neighbor or God. It is about respect and actuaL FEAR of the incredible power of the Lord.

Anyone with a military background is instructed how to handle guns. You are taught specifically to use a firearm and rifle. Carelessness is not tolerated; Respect the weapon. Being shot at will garner incredible fear.
Another who misunderstands the term as it relates to those who wrote it.
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Old 04-22-2018, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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You just keep on eating that popcorn while I cut some hair to burn in the fire over 12 stones, and then you will be sorry, HEY, these people here were serious, they sold they house and kept a little money back for themselves, seems rational doesn't it? And then they lay dead at the door, I wonder how many times a Christian has cursed you like that whispering in they head TD?


You might should get you a big mirror to deflect any more curses, well, I will leave that to you, I know you will figure it out.


Ananias and Sapphira
…9“How could you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord?” Peter replied. “Look, the feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.” 10At that instant she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and found her dead. So they carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11And great fear came over the whole church and all who heard about these events.…
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:21 PM
 
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Another who misunderstands the term as it relates to those who wrote it.
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For the unbeliever, the fear of God is the fear of the judgment of God and eternal death, which is eternal separation from God (Luke 12:5; Hebrews 10:31). For the believer, the fear of God is something much different. The believer's fear is reverence of God. Hebrews 12:28-29 is a good description of this: “Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe...

Some redefine the fear of God for believers to “respecting” Him. While respect is definitely included in the concept of fearing God, there is more to it than that. A biblical fear of God, for the believer, includes understanding how much God hates sin and fearing His judgment on sin—even in the life of a believer. Hebrews 12:5-11 describes God’s discipline of the believer. While it is done in love (Hebrews 12:6), it is still a fearful thing. As children, the fear of discipline from our parents no doubt prevented some evil actions. The same should be true in our relationship with God. We should fear His discipline, and therefore seek to live our lives in such a way that pleases Him.
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Old 04-22-2018, 05:53 PM
 
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............, HEY, these people here were serious, they sold they house and kept a little money back for themselves, seems rational doesn't it? And then they lay dead at the door, I wonder how many times a Christian has cursed you like that whispering in they head TD?
You might should get you a big mirror to deflect any more curses, well, I will leave that to you, I know you will figure it out.
Ananias and Sapphira
…9“How could you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord?” Peter replied. “Look, the feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.” 10At that instant she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and found her dead. So they carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11And great fear came over the whole church and all who heard about these events.…
I find the point was Not the holding back of money, but the lying about it.
They were Not forced to give all away, they just said they did. They lied. Lied to God. - Acts 5:3
Jesus forewarns that there is No forgiveness for committing the un-forgivable sin at Matthew 12:32.
They were judged as willfull, deliberate, on-purpose, intentional, premeditated sinners against God.
ALL wicked people will be 'destroyed forever' according to Psalms 92:7.
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Old 04-22-2018, 06:34 PM
 
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For the unbeliever, the fear of God is the fear of the judgment of God and eternal death, which is eternal separation from God (Luke 12:5; Hebrews 10:31). For the believer, the fear of God is something much different. The believer's fear is reverence of God. Hebrews 12:28-29 is a good description of this: “Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe...

Some redefine the fear of God for believers to “respecting” Him. While respect is definitely included in the concept of fearing God, there is more to it than that. A biblical fear of God, for the believer, includes understanding how much God hates sin and fearing His judgment on sin—even in the life of a believer. Hebrews 12:5-11 describes God’s discipline of the believer. While it is done in love (Hebrews 12:6), it is still a fearful thing. As children, the fear of discipline from our parents no doubt prevented some evil actions. The same should be true in our relationship with God. We should fear His discipline, and therefore seek to live our lives in such a way that pleases Him.
Except that Jesus said God is NOT counting our sins against us, so why are you so focused on sin as if God is counting our sins against us????
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Old 04-22-2018, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Except that Jesus said God is NOT counting our sins against us, so why are you so focused on sin as if God is counting our sins against us????
Jesus also said a woman should not teach a man, but I know you disagree with Him there.

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Old 04-22-2018, 07:13 PM
 
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Except that Jesus said God is NOT counting our sins against us, so why are you so focused on sin as if God is counting our sins against us????
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Jesus also said a woman should not teach a man, but I know you disagree with Him there.
What I posted is consistent with and compatible with the characteristics of God's Holy Spirit as described in the Sermon on the mount, 1Cor 13, and Galatians 5. Yours is NOT.
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Old 04-22-2018, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Doesn’t have anything to do with love of neighbor or God. It is about respect and actuaL FEAR of the incredible power of the Lord.

Anyone with a military background is instructed how to handle guns. You are taught specifically to use a firearm and rifle. Carelessness is not tolerated; Respect the weapon. Being shot at will garner incredible fear.
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Excerpts from Qotquestions

For the unbeliever, the fear of God is the fear of the judgment of God and eternal death, which is eternal separation from God (Luke 12:5; Hebrews 10:31). For the believer, the fear of God is something much different. The believer's fear is reverence of God. Hebrews 12:28-29 is a good description of this: “Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe...

Some redefine the fear of God for believers to “respecting” Him. While respect is definitely included in the concept of fearing God, there is more to it than that. A biblical fear of God, for the believer, includes understanding how much God hates sin and fearing His judgment on sin—even in the life of a believer. Hebrews 12:5-11 describes God’s discipline of the believer. While it is done in love (Hebrews 12:6), it is still a fearful thing. As children, the fear of discipline from our parents no doubt prevented some evil actions. The same should be true in our relationship with God. We should fear His discipline, and therefore seek to live our lives in such a way that pleases Him.
I highly doubt an unbeliever fears any judgment that you would impose upon them.
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Old 04-22-2018, 08:29 PM
 
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Except that Jesus said God is NOT counting our sins against us, so why are you so focused on sin as if God is counting our sins against us????
That is not Biblical. Only if we repent of our sins that He will not hold it against us. But If we continue in disobedience we will answer for it.

For the believer, fear is more about reverence and awe(gotquesions)
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