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When you condemn others, you exalt yourself above all that is God.
I'm no judge, but the One who judges has already spoken on this matter.
Unbelievers are already condemned, as it is written of them. Repent while there is still time.
I'm no judge, but the One who judges has already spoken on this matter.
Unbelievers are already condemned, as it is written of them. Repent while there is still time.
Believers 'stumble too', and many of them daily. Believers need to repent as well. Accepting Christ doesn't turn a person into a super-saint who no longer sins. We can't escape humanity. We are more like unbelievers than we are willing to admit to themselves. There's God, and all of us. No one can biblically place him or herself above others.
Asking why "they" stumble (and not "we") is a great example of the problem at hand. Why are we trying to call out unbelievers? Why aren't we looking at ourselves? Christians have infinitely more of a responsibility to answer the reasons for stumbling, since we are to have knowledge of the before and after, being lost and then found. Christians stumbling is a bigger issue to God than those who haven't reached that point and are less accountable.
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Believers 'stumble too', and many of them daily. Believers need to repent as well. Accepting Christ doesn't turn a person into a super-saint who no longer sins. We can't escape humanity. We are more like unbelievers than we are willing to admit to themselves. There's God, and all of us. No one can biblically place him or herself above others.
Asking why "they" stumble (and not "we") is a great example of the problem at hand. Why are we trying to call out unbelievers? Why aren't we looking at ourselves? Christians have infinitely more of a responsibility to answer the reasons for stumbling, since we are to have knowledge of the before and after, being lost and then found. Christians stumbling is a bigger issue to God than those who haven't reached that point and are less accountable.
What kind of sins do you consider a "stumble"? Lying, stealing, fornication, gossiping, cussing? Please expound.
What kind of sins do you consider a "stumble"? Lying, stealing, fornication, gossiping, cussing? Please expound.
Any sin is 'stumbling'. They're synonymous. That's what Christ indicated. And there's not a separate group of sins for non-believers and different ones for believers.
There are plenty of examples of even the apostles sinning, such as Peter resorting to violence and cutting off the ear of the soldier, which led to a rebuke from Jesus.
Any sin is 'stumbling'. They're synonymous. That's what Christ indicated. And there's not a separate group of sins for non-believers and different ones for believers.
There are plenty of examples of even the apostles sinning, such as Peter resorting to violence and cutting off the ear of the soldier, which led to a rebuke from Jesus.
Peter no longer cut off ears after he was converted. Jesus told a man who He healed to sin no more lest a worse thing come upon you. Sinning Christians are on dangerous ground; the Lord will say "I don't know who you are".
Peter no longer cut off ears after he was converted. Jesus told a man who He healed to sin no more lest a worse thing come upon you. Sinning Christians are on dangerous ground; the Lord will say "I don't know who you are".
But he played the hypocite and Paul told him so. What ground was Peter on then?........ In your world, dangerous ground .....in God's world, Holy ground......Take off your shoes Mr Graham.
But he played the hypocite and Paul told him so. What ground was Peter on then?........ In your world, dangerous ground .....in God's world, Holy ground......Take off your shoes Mr Graham.
Peter lived a holy righteous life; it's a lifestyle of recognizing your faults and correcting them as you grow in the Lord. A sinner, on the other hand, commits sin because they don't care enough about the Lord's commandments to resist temptation. They believe the lie that no one is perfect, but that's not what the Bible says.
Job 1
1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.
All Saints of God must have that kind of testimony from the Lord.
Peter lived a holy righteous life; it's a lifestyle of recognizing your faults and correcting them as you grow in the Lord. A sinner, on the other hand, commits sin because they don't care enough about the Lord's commandments to resist temptation. They believe the lie that no one is perfect, but that's not what the Bible says.
Job 1
1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.
All Saints of God must have that kind of testimony from the Lord.
You do know a holy righteous life is not quiting everything you think is sin don't you?. It is actually being them.... So if you are living a holy righteous life what are you being that shows that?. If you say Christ like, explain what Christ like is please.
The Lord says; "Straight are the ways of the Lord, the just walk in them but sinners stumble."
Those who sin stumble because they do not walk in the ways of the Lord.
So what scripture verse or verses tells us what the ways of the Lord are ?
The wise listen to Jesus on matters--Jesus summed it up nicely. He taught-- Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT--NT--over and over year after year and one keeps on learning new points. Then one knows the ways of the LORD--
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