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Old 05-14-2018, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Texas and Arkansas
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Israel, the apple of God's eye, is the church.

It shall last forever!

It's been around a lot more than 70 years!

 
Old 05-18-2018, 07:22 PM
 
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Israel, the apple of God's eye, is the church.

It shall last forever!

It's been around a lot more than 70 years!

God loves and protects His beloved Israel......but that is not the current church. The "body of Christ" is the church today that will be taken up in the rapture......
 
Old 05-18-2018, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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The modern state of "Israel" wouldn't exist if it weren't for the US, and indirectly Germany, not to mention other countries. God let the land of Israel (of the Bible) fall thousands of years ago. Nothing has changed since, including the years around 1948. God would have no reason to push the country into being and existence again, and there isn't a shred of evidence to support that fantasy anyway.

Give credit where it's due. Celebrate the US and Allies for the creation of this so-called "Israel".
 
Old 05-18-2018, 09:58 PM
 
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The modern state of "Israel" wouldn't exist if it weren't for the US, and indirectly Germany, not to mention other countries. God let the land of Israel (of the Bible) fall thousands of years ago. Nothing has changed since, including the years around 1948. God would have no reason to push the country into being and existence again, and there isn't a shred of evidence to support that fantasy anyway.
Give credit where it's due. Celebrate the US and Allies for the creation of this so-called "Israel".
The reality of HOW it happened cannot be disputed, but that it happened as God prophesied it would cannot be disputed either.

From Isaiah 52:15

. . . He shall sprinkle many nations, kings shall shut their mouth at him: For they to whom it was not told of him, have seen; and they that heard not, have beheld. [The entire European continent of nations (and their kings) would seem to validate this prophecy about Christ.]

From Isaiah 55:4

. . . Behold I have given him for a witness to the people, for a leader and master of the Gentiles. [The numerous "Gentile" religions based on Christ certainly validates this prophecy.]

From Isaiah 55:5

. . . Behold thou shalt call a nation which thou knewest not; and the nations that knew not thee shall run to thee, because of the Lord thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel, for he hath glorified thee. [The creation of the nation of Israel out of Palestine in 1948 by the "Gentiles" certainly validates this prophecy.]
 
Old 05-18-2018, 10:07 PM
 
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Genesis 12:3

I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”
 
Old 05-19-2018, 03:28 AM
 
Location: US
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I just wanted to acknowledge this incredible miracle by the God of the Bible whose prophets of old declared that Israel would become a nation again after centuries in exile.
Where does it say this?...
 
Old 05-19-2018, 03:52 AM
 
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Israel is a politically-defined country/state. It might be part of the Holy Land, but "Israel" in modern times as a country is political; defined and designated 70 years ago.

The land of Israel referred to in the Bible is of different significance and formation. Many would point to God helping form that during a time of heavy involvement (detailed in scripture), whereas the modern State of Israel was formed by men and political factions.
God promises Avraham “’Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates” (Genesis 15:18).
Read more at https://theisraelbible.com/biblical-...LpjoRkqhyFR.99



That "Land of Israel" looks a lot bigger than what is there now...


Some 3,500 years ago the Canaanites inhabited the land that God promised to give to the offspring of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (see Timeline). God promised that He would give the land of Israel to the Jewish people as an eternal possession. The promise was unconditional. God confirmed it at least 55 times with an oath and stated at least 12 times that the covenant was everlasting.



 
Old 05-19-2018, 03:53 AM
 
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Israel, the apple of God's eye, is the church.

It shall last forever!

It's been around a lot more than 70 years!
Ah, replacement theology...
 
Old 05-19-2018, 03:56 AM
 
Location: US
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Originally Posted by Thoreau424 View Post
The modern state of "Israel" wouldn't exist if it weren't for the US, and indirectly Germany, not to mention other countries. God let the land of Israel (of the Bible) fall thousands of years ago. Nothing has changed since, including the years around 1948. God would have no reason to push the country into being and existence again, and there isn't a shred of evidence to support that fantasy anyway.

Give credit where it's due. Celebrate the US and Allies for the creation of this so-called "Israel".
The reason G-d would is because He promised it...

I am pretty sure your post smacks of Anti-Semitism...
 
Old 05-19-2018, 03:58 AM
 
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The reality of HOW it happened cannot be disputed, but that it happened as God prophesied it would cannot be disputed either.

From Isaiah 52:15

. . . He shall sprinkle many nations, kings shall shut their mouth at him: For they to whom it was not told of him, have seen; and they that heard not, have beheld. [The entire European continent of nations (and their kings) would seem to validate this prophecy about Christ.]

From Isaiah 55:4

. . . Behold I have given him for a witness to the people, for a leader and master of the Gentiles. [The numerous "Gentile" religions based on Christ certainly validates this prophecy.]

From Isaiah 55:5

. . . Behold thou shalt call a nation which thou knewest not; and the nations that knew not thee shall run to thee, because of the Lord thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel, for he hath glorified thee. [The creation of the nation of Israel out of Palestine in 1948 by the "Gentiles" certainly validates this prophecy.]
...This is just so wrong...
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