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Old 07-03-2018, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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This was a great crash course in the comparisons, thanks, Mr. Chung.
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Old 07-03-2018, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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exposing a legalistic cult related to the Amish the Hutterites



youtube.com/watch?v=cr8L2GLHxE8
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Old 07-04-2018, 06:25 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Take this simple true or false quiz.

Ready?

Prayer is more important than mowing your widowed grandmother's lawn.

Sharing the gospel is more important than taking a meal to a new mother and father just home from the hospital.

Doing "sacred" work, such as preaching or being a missionary, is more important than "secular" work, such as accounting or being a lawyer.

If you answered "true" to any of these questions, you've been deceived by the ancient heresy of Gnosticism.

https://www.insight.org/resources/ar...h-then-and-now

If you think that is what Christianity teaches, you have been deceived by secularism and liberal theology.
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Old 07-09-2018, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Zondervan's NIV bible lists 6 elements that comprise Gnosticism. They are:

1. secret knowledge,
2. asceticism,
3. depreciation of Christ (lowering Him in name and in glory),
4. strict rule-keeping, ceremonies, or rituals
5. worship of angels,
6. and reliance on human wisdom and tradition.

Gnosticism is alive and well...and gaining. Introduction
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:56 PM
 
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Old 07-09-2018, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Deceived by the Lightning - Christian Research Institute

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The Second Incarnation. The group believes that the Bible is out-of-date and that those who limit God’s revelation to just the Bible are like the Pharisees who held on to the Old Testament and rejected Christ. Followers are told to give up the truth of the past and build their foundation on the Holy Spirit’s word for today: the writings of the “female Christ,” which are “God’s new word.”

The cult has published numerous books, including The Word Becomes Flesh and The Lightning Comes from the East, and distributed hundreds of thousands of copies in China. Two of the books that are distributed among Chinese churches in America are titled The Holy Spirit Speaks to All the Churches and God’s Work through His Secret Appearing. The content in these books is nearly identical. Much of it is written in first person, as if by their “female Christ,” and is terse and threatening.

The “female Christ” states that Jesus was God’s first incarnation, but that He did not complete His work; therefore, God needed to come again to finish the work, this time as a woman. This “appearing” ends the previous age and begins a new age in God’s six-thousand-year plan to save all humanity.

God’s plan, she says, has three ages (creation, salvation, and destruction) and three dispensations (law, redemption, and kingdom). She claims that she comes for the kingdom dispensation and therefore her work is judgment.

Her books are filled with explicit and horrific pronouncements of damnation and judgment on unbelievers. The only sin is not to accept her as the Christ, she says, and salvation is possible only by following her. She states that “God is inhumanly cruel” and she admits that she hates humankind.

She teaches that Christ died for our sins, but denies that He rose again physically. She ardently opposes the concept of the second coming of Jesus and tells followers not to wait for a “white cloud descension.”

The “female Christ” doesn’t prove her divinity to potential believers by healing the sick, casting out demons, or performing miracles; instead, she uses threats and intimidation to persuade converts. She says that she will punish or slay those who repudiate her, and even their family members will meet with misfortune. Another of the cult’s Web sites (www.godword.org) lists 887 cases in which people allegedly died of sickness, accident, or unknown causes after rejecting the cult’s evangelistic efforts.

The cult demands complete obedience and sacrifice. Adherents must turn their material possessions over to the organization and follow orders, otherwise they will be punished. They are urged to leave their families, to live in a commune, and to spread the message of the “female Christ.”

Spying and Paving the Way. The cult is known for its deceptive evangelization practices. An article in Tianfeng, the magazine of the Chinese government–controlled Three Self Patriotic Church, says the cult entices people with money or gifts, but will turn to violence or even murder if a person accepts their gifts but fails to join.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:18 AM
 
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Take this simple true or false quiz.

Ready?

Prayer is more important than mowing your widowed grandmother's lawn.

Sharing the gospel is more important than taking a meal to a new mother and father just home from the hospital.

Doing "sacred" work, such as preaching or being a missionary, is more important than "secular" work, such as accounting or being a lawyer.

If you answered "true" to any of these questions, you've been deceived by the ancient heresy of Gnosticism.

https://www.insight.org/resources/ar...h-then-and-now
will it never end.. more liberal pig potty..
they are all equal... obedience to the spirit is true Christianity.. not obedience to men or their ideas of righteousness or of their ideas of God , or good , or of what is good enough , or bad Bad or evil either !
and no one has a clue what gnostics really believed..

but what is known is
gnostics believed Jesus was spirit only and not a man in the flesh...., and thus not a real man. they have construed his genes to make him be all female.. just lots of crazy garbage..

where True Christianity says he was fully man and fully God..

a son of man with the heart mind , and seat of emotions , of the spirit of God's own right arm.
they have spiritualized the physical , and mysticized the Spiritual Side of our Savior.
and the proof of their lies God says in his word is they will claim "he did not come in the flesh.." because they beleive the demonic lies from hell.

and terms like " God spirit" and Christ spirit.. other terms of new age , yes eastern mysticism has wormed its way into his
" liberal "churches and those who think that because can spell Jesus name , and think they "believe" in him..
But sometimes even Satan "believes" in him that much as those worshipping a
" the christ spirit" or they worship in any religion......

and they will claim.. all ways lead to a spiritualized christ......,or they worship only " God's agape love" ... but without God.. without the agape and without the love either. they only serve their own needs and spiritual ideas.. Not the Fathers will .

NO Jesus is a man and a king and as son of a king.. there is no spiritualizing that part of him.
and he only reflects the Fathers light. He only did what he saw the Father doing , He only said what he saw the father saying..... he is the power the Father created (like the moon ) to rule in the time of darkness.
a son of man worthy of his birthright, humble enough to be empowered by the right arm of God and creator of all. where the spirit and the flesh became one at his baptism.
who of the Angels did he ever say .... "today I have begot thee.."
Jesus and the right arm of God ... had a birthday!
he is both physical and spiritual.. a peek into the promise to restore men back to the glory of our creation. the New Adam. and the promise that we all can have such a birthday.
really Put that stuff away.. it is garbage!
Jesus the son of God is the only way to the kingdom and to the Father.. and dont' forget it.
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Old 07-13-2018, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVL4M7a9aZ4

Error In The Church: St Augustine The Manichean
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Old 07-13-2018, 07:45 PM
 
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Don't forget Christianism which is syncretistic in nature in an attempt to reconcile all the various beliefs of the people.
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Old 07-14-2018, 01:17 AM
 
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Don't forget Christianism which is syncretistic in nature in an attempt to reconcile all the various beliefs of the people.
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