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Old 10-01-2018, 08:24 AM
Status: "I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice" (set 23 days ago)
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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https://billhigh.com/faith/liberal-c...ches-thriving/

"We have figured out your problem. You're the only one here who believes in God." That statement, addressed to a young seminarian, introduces Dave Shiflett's new book, Exodus: Why Americans are Fleeing Liberal Churches for Conservative Christianity. The book is an important contribution, and Shiflett offers compelling evidence that liberal Christianity is fast imploding upon itself.

Shiflett, an established reporter and author, has written for The Washington Post, The Weekly Standard, National Review, The Wall Street Journal, and Investors' Business Daily, among other major media. He is also author of Christianity on Trial and is a member of the White House Writers Group.

Shiflett's instincts as a reporter led him to see a big story behind the membership decline in liberal denominations. At the same time, Shiflett detected the bigger picture--the decline of liberal churches as compared to growth among the conservatives. Like any good reporter, he knew he was onto a big story.

"Americans are vacating progressive pews and flocking to churches that offer more traditional versions of Christianity," Shiflett asserts. This author is not subtle, and he gets right to the point: "Most people go to church to get something they cannot get elsewhere. This consuming public--people who already believe, or who are attempting to believe, who want their children to believe--go to church to learn about the mysterious Truth on which the Christian religion is built. They want the Good News, not the minister's political views or intellectual coaching. The latter creates sprawling vacancies in the pews. Indeed, those empty pews can be considered the earthly reward for abandoning heaven, traditionally understood."
Just like an evangelical to regurgitate another person's writing and not include any original ideas or thoughts...

plagiarism?
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:29 AM
Status: "I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice" (set 23 days ago)
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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There has always been those who follow Christ, and not condone their neighbors..




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvkjqM5Gfio
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:16 AM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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Can you guys please stop posting YouTube videos with no commentary? We have no idea if you agree, disagree, or just want to be entertained.
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Marcionite Preacher who said Christians should reject the Old Testament which was quoted by Jesus and the Apostles is now saying Christians are not required to obey the commandments in the OT

Megachurch Pastor in Hot Water Again: 'Christians Are Not Required to Obey Any of the Commandments' from the OT | CBN News
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Old 11-17-2018, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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ESCAPEES from some of Americaís most notorious cults and extreme groups have revealed their harrowing tales of brainwashing, abuse and forced child labour.

The brave survivors also warned how the organisations, which include the United Nations of Islam, Nxivm and the gun-obsessed Sanctuary Church - are still active around the world.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/775406...rifying-cults/
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Old 11-23-2018, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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SEOUL (AFP) - A South Korean cult leader was convicted on Thursday (Nov 22) of the multiple rape of eight female followers - some of whom believed he was God - and jailed for 15 years.

Pastor Lee Jaerock's victims were "unable to resist, as they were subject to the accused's absolute religious authority", judge Chung Moon-sung told the Seoul Central District Court.

Religious devotion is widespread in technologically advanced South Korea, with 44 per cent of people identifying themselves as believers.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...ping-followers
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Old 12-08-2018, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Word of Faith Fellowship (WOFF) | Apologetics Index


The Word of Faith Fellowship (WOFF), in Spindale, North Carolina (USA), presents itself as a charismatic church aligned with the Word of faith movement.
Pastor Jane Whaley, who believes that she alone receives messages from God, rules the church with an iron fist.

The WOFF’s abusive practices (see, e.g., this information) show this church to be

sociologically an abusive, cult-like church to such an extent that it should be considered a destructive cult
theologically a cult of Christianity

Among other things, the WOFF church has

an unhealthy, unbalanced focus on demons
an unbiblical manner of addressing real or perceived demonization, and
other unbiblical practices, including attempts to control people in various ways.
The church has some 700 members at the Spindale location.

CULT-LIKE CONTROL
The control Jane Whaley assumes over the members of her church — including her husband, Sam Whaley, is extreme. According to the Associated Press, it includes

— Followers are banned from celebrating birthdays and religious or secular holidays, including Christmas, Easter and the Fourth of July.

— Congregants are prohibited from watching television and movies, reading newspapers, or eating in restaurants that play music or serve alcohol.

— Men and women must swim with shirts covering their upper bodies and cannot take the extra clothing off in public — not even in their own backyards.

— Men cannot grow beards.

— Followers are not allowed to enroll in college without permission and, if permission is granted, can attend only alongside other members so their behavior can be monitored. Whaley also picks their majors, and they must work for the church or a business owned by church leaders once they leave school.

— Whaley’s permission is required to buy a house or a car.

— Members are not allowed to wear Nike products because Whaley believes the company’s iconic “swoosh” logo is a pagan symbol.

— Congregants aren’t allowed to play board games like Monopoly.
– Source: Associated Press, Sect rules include no TV, movies or reading newspapers, February 24, 2017

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Word of Faith Fellowship (WOFF)


AP In-depth investigation, February 27, 2017

The Word of Faith Fellowship (WOFF), in Spindale, North Carolina (USA), presents itself as a charismatic church aligned with the Word of faith movement.
Pastor Jane Whaley, who believes that she alone receives messages from God, rules the church with an iron fist.

The WOFF’s abusive practices (see, e.g., this information) show this church to be

sociologically an abusive, cult-like church to such an extent that it should be considered a destructive cult
theologically a cult of Christianity
Note the difference between theological and sociological definitions of the term ‘cult.’
Among other things, the WOFF church has

an unhealthy, unbalanced focus on demons
an unbiblical manner of addressing real or perceived demonization, and
other unbiblical practices, including attempts to control people in various ways.
The church has some 700 members at the Spindale location.





CULT-LIKE CONTROL
The control Jane Whaley assumes over the members of her church — including her husband, Sam Whaley, is extreme. According to the Associated Press, it includes

— Followers are banned from celebrating birthdays and religious or secular holidays, including Christmas, Easter and the Fourth of July.

— Congregants are prohibited from watching television and movies, reading newspapers, or eating in restaurants that play music or serve alcohol.



— Men and women must swim with shirts covering their upper bodies and cannot take the extra clothing off in public — not even in their own backyards.

— Men cannot grow beards.

— Followers are not allowed to enroll in college without permission and, if permission is granted, can attend only alongside other members so their behavior can be monitored. Whaley also picks their majors, and they must work for the church or a business owned by church leaders once they leave school.

— Whaley’s permission is required to buy a house or a car.

— Members are not allowed to wear Nike products because Whaley believes the company’s iconic “swoosh” logo is a pagan symbol.

— Congregants aren’t allowed to play board games like Monopoly.
– Source: Associated Press, Sect rules include no TV, movies or reading newspapers, February 24, 2017


In addition the church has what AP titles as ‘Unconventional rules for sex and marriage’:

— Congregants need permission from leader Jane Whaley and other ministers to get married, and it then can take months — or even a year — before the newlyweds are allowed to have sex.

— No one is allowed to date without permission, and most relationships and marriages are arranged by Whaley and ministers.

— On their wedding night, couples are permitted only a “godly peck on the cheek.” When they get in bed together, they must roll over and go to sleep.

— For all married couples, love-making is limited to 30 minutes, no foreplay is allowed, the lights must be turned off and only the missionary position is sanctioned.

— Couples need permission from church leadership to have children, and leaders dole out condoms to make sure unapproved women don’t get pregnant.

The former followers said couples violating the rules can be publicly rebuked, subjected to violence or forced to separate.
– Source: Associated Press, NC church has unconventional rules for sex and marriage, February 24, 2017
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Old 12-08-2018, 07:17 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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Meester Chung, can you give a short conscise scriptural description on why you are saved and what you are saved from?. If you can't it is not a problem, but you really should not be trying to prove gnosticm is what you say it is if you cannnot simply without going into great detail, explain the hope you have.
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:48 AM
 
Location: US
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i can say the same for the so-called rabbinic oral laws that the rabbis invented many of which contracted the torah laws
Where do they contradict the Torah?...
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:50 AM
 
Location: US
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Take this simple true or false quiz.

Ready?

Prayer is more important than mowing your widowed grandmother's lawn.

Sharing the gospel is more important than taking a meal to a new mother and father just home from the hospital.

Doing "sacred" work, such as preaching or being a missionary, is more important than "secular" work, such as accounting or being a lawyer.

If you answered "true" to any of these questions, you've been deceived by the ancient heresy of Gnosticism.

https://www.insight.org/resources/ar...h-then-and-now
And thatís Christianity...
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