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Old 06-11-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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A couple of weeks ago, televangelist Jesse Duplantis got a lot of press as he encouraged people to help him buy an expensive jet worth over 54 million dollars. In this youtube clip, him and Kenneth Copeland explain why they need these planes....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdH2DGSXjss


Now, it's obvious these two are crooks, but for the sake of the argument, if these guys really were changing the lives of people around the world, I wouldn't be against them having these jets. It's the pure fact that even when they use the planes to actually preach, they aren't having any real impact at all. They aren't changing the world. People are poor and broke when they arrive, and they remain that way when they leave. This wouldn't be the case if Jesus was traveling the world in this day and age. The Bible records that Jesus preached and did miracles. People were healed from things such as blindness, to having limbs restored. The same thing would happen if Peter, Paul, and the original disciples were traveling the world today. Ain't nothing happening with Jesse Duplantis, Creflo Dollar, and Kenneth Copeland. We still got major problems here in our home country, problems derived from the oldest of sins such as slavery. Yet none of these crooks dare talk about those things nor seek to heal the people. They are jumping over the mission field to get to mission fields in other countries, and still getting nothing done.

What y'all think about these guys? Like I said, if Jesse was actually doing something, if people were getting healed and changing their countries for the better, I would pitch in and get him that plane! Just like the people of Israel gave to Moses to help build the Tabernacle and all the items therein. They knew God was in that work.
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:22 AM
 
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A couple of weeks ago, televangelist Jesse Duplantis got a lot of press as he encouraged people to help him buy an expensive jet worth over 54 million dollars. In this youtube clip, him and Kenneth Copeland explain why they need these planes....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdH2DGSXjss


Now, it's obvious these two are crooks, but for the sake of the argument, if these guys really were changing the lives of people around the world, I wouldn't be against them having these jets. It's the pure fact that even when they use the planes to actually preach, they aren't having any real impact at all. They aren't changing the world. People are poor and broke when they arrive, and they remain that way when they leave. This wouldn't be the case if Jesus was traveling the world in this day and age. The Bible records that Jesus preached and did miracles. People were healed from things such as blindness, to having limbs restored. The same thing would happen if Peter, Paul, and the original disciples were traveling the world today. Ain't nothing happening with Jesse Duplantis, Creflo Dollar, and Kenneth Copeland. We still got major problems here in our home country, problems derived from the oldest of sins such as slavery. Yet none of these crooks dare talk about those things nor seek to heal the people. They are jumping over the mission field to get to mission fields in other countries, and still getting nothing done.

What y'all think about these guys? Like I said, if Jesse was actually doing something, if people were getting healed and changing their countries for the better, I would pitch in and get him that plane! Just like the people of Israel gave to Moses to help build the Tabernacle and all the items therein. They knew God was in that work.
Just another greedy faker.
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:33 AM
 
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Just another greedy faker.
I would use another word instead of "greedy."
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Old 06-11-2018, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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a couple of weeks ago, televangelist jesse duplantis got a lot of press as he encouraged people to help him buy an expensive jet worth over 54 million dollars. In this youtube clip, him and kenneth copeland explain why they need these planes....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adh2dgsxjss


now, it's obvious these two are crooks, but for the sake of the argument, if these guys really were changing the lives of people around the world, i wouldn't be against them having these jets. It's the pure fact that even when they use the planes to actually preach, they aren't having any real impact at all. They aren't changing the world. People are poor and broke when they arrive, and they remain that way when they leave. This wouldn't be the case if jesus was traveling the world in this day and age. The bible records that jesus preached and did miracles. People were healed from things such as blindness, to having limbs restored. The same thing would happen if peter, paul, and the original disciples were traveling the world today. Ain't nothing happening with jesse duplantis, creflo dollar, and kenneth copeland. We still got major problems here in our home country, problems derived from the oldest of sins such as slavery. Yet none of these crooks dare talk about those things nor seek to heal the people. They are jumping over the mission field to get to mission fields in other countries, and still getting nothing done.

What y'all think about these guys? Like i said, if jesse was actually doing something, if people were getting healed and changing their countries for the better, i would pitch in and get him that plane! Just like the people of israel gave to moses to help build the tabernacle and all the items therein. They knew god was in that work.
crooks?


Not according to all those people who believe in them and send them money, why, they must be the most righteous people around and i can see how Jesse would need his own jet to be alone with god himself in order to pray for people like me.




How dare anyone speak about the lord's anointed!


How can somebody open they mouths against the true servants of god who walk around filled with the spirit healing people?


How much should a person give jesse after he has healed the blind and made the deaf hear, and how much should we pay when we see our relatives raised from the dead to sit up right there in their casket.


The lord is not going to forget what you say of his anointed.
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:54 PM
 
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crooks?


Not according to all those people who believe in them and send them money, why, they must be the most righteous people around and i can see how Jesse would need his own jet to be alone with god himself in order to pray for people like me.




How dare anyone speak about the lord's anointed!


How can somebody open they mouths against the true servants of god who walk around filled with the spirit healing people?


How much should a person give jesse after he has healed the blind and made the deaf hear, and how much should we pay when we see our relatives raised from the dead to sit up right there in their casket.


The lord is not going to forget what you say of his anointed.
Are you saying lives are being changed due to Jesse's work?
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Old 06-11-2018, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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These guys will have account for their lives and ways to God someday. He will judge them accordingly. That's the only thing that will get through to them; past their self-seeking mindsets. Nothing we say or do down here will change them.
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Old 06-11-2018, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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I call them grifters.

grift
[ɡrift]
VERB
engage in petty swindling.
NOUN
a petty swindle.
synonyms: sham · fraud · pretense · imposture · hoax · fake · misrepresentation · blind · wile · artifice · Trojan horse · trick · stratagem · device · ruse · scheme · dodge · maneuver · contrivance · machination · deception · subterfuge · cheat · swindle · confidence trick · con · con trick · setup · game · scam · sting · gyp · leg-pull · flimflam · wheeze · bunco ·
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Old 06-11-2018, 02:28 PM
 
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I call them grifters.

grift
[ɡrift]
VERB
engage in petty swindling.
NOUN
a petty swindle.
synonyms: sham · fraud · pretense · imposture · hoax · fake · misrepresentation · blind · wile · artifice · Trojan horse · trick · stratagem · device · ruse · scheme · dodge · maneuver · contrivance · machination · deception · subterfuge · cheat · swindle · confidence trick · con · con trick · setup · game · scam · sting · gyp · leg-pull · flimflam · wheeze · bunco ·
You are being too kind to them.
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Old 06-11-2018, 02:33 PM
 
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crooks?


Not according to all those people who believe in them and send them money, why, they must be the most righteous people around and i can see how Jesse would need his own jet to be alone with god himself in order to pray for people like me.




How dare anyone speak about the lord's anointed!


How can somebody open they mouths against the true servants of god who walk around filled with the spirit healing people?


How much should a person give jesse after he has healed the blind and made the deaf hear, and how much should we pay when we see our relatives raised from the dead to sit up right there in their casket.


The lord is not going to forget what you say of his anointed.
Let's up the ante and say DAMN THEM VIPERS AND LIARS!
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Old 06-11-2018, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Let's up the ante and say DAMN THEM VIPERS AND LIARS!
We can do better than that for the ambassadors of God, we should all send them money!.






Heavenese, do you doubt God's own messengers?


Millions of people are running around claiming to have the Holy spirit, so tell me, why doesn't Jesse or Kenneth Copeland or Joel Osteen deserve things much greater than their congregation? The sheep who follow these men need to be fleeced. LOL, yeah, like these men represent God, and if you are so uninformed as to fall for what these people say, maybe you shouldn't have money in the first place.


I mean, what do all these preachers have to do with the first Christianity? If I follow the ways of God to the point of choosing a priest, it sure isn't going to be a pretend priest who has not fulfilled the requirements for a Gentile to become a priest. Anyone who is fooled by these fake, pretend charletons to the priesthood doesn't need they money to begin with.


I don't just say this about TV Evangelicals, but to the Baptist, to the Catholic, and to each brand of modern Christianity to the Protestant who doesn't even know he is a Catholic although he follows what is wholly Catholic law set in place and instituted to replace the laws of Moses.


There is nothing wrong with being a viper, and every person reading this is a viper, and when Jesus sent out the disciples, he said,'' Be innocent as doves but wise as serpents.'' Everyone has the ability to speak from their father Satan because everyone is his son.


But what difference is there between Jesse Duplantis, Kenneth Copeland, Joel Osteen against any other preacher who has the same Babylonian worship system and whose congregation are Gentiles with no ambition to become Israel?


Christians will always look the same to me, I always see the first king of Israel,'' Jeroboam.''


I see Constantine who outlawed the Sabbaths, feasts, traditions and rituals of God under penalty of death.


I look at the Protestant and I see a Catholic who still stands behind the word of Martin Luther, a Catholic that thinks he isn't a Catholic when his religion and law is Catholic religion and law, and all of these are against Jerusalem.




I look at Christians and I see Gentiles separated from the commonwealth of Israel and who will never have an inheritance in Israel that they should be gathered to the mountains of Israel with God's people.
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