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Old 07-07-2018, 11:10 AM
 
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Rock on is speaking the Truth.

What exactly about their teaching is harmful?
how can you say it is the truth and NOT have any idea what teachings are based on??

Some really do not rely on FACTS before forming an opinion do they?


BUT WHY LET FACTS GET N THE WAY OF PERSONAL PREJUDICE?

 
Old 07-07-2018, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Rock on is speaking the Truth.

What exactly about their teaching is harmful?
https://carm.org/what-is-eastern-lightning

they claim that Jesus returned in 1991 they have a youtube channel with movies where actors attack the bible and attack other Christians accusing them of blasphemy, anti-christs and claim that the bibel have the words of satan.

here is one of thier movies. just watch the fist 20 or so minutes of it

https://youtu.be/-3NmATBhsX4


attacking the bible and Christians who don't follow them
 
Old 07-07-2018, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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https://www.holyspiritspeaks.org/wha...-is-the-bible/


attacking the bible and christians

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What they recorded was the experiences of men, and each had their own means of recording and knowing, and each record was different. Thus, if you worship the Bible as God you are extremely ignorant and stupid!
 
Old 07-07-2018, 11:19 AM
 
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https://carm.org/what-is-eastern-lightning

they claim that Jesus returned in 1991 they have a youtube channel with movies where actors attack the bible and attack other Christians accusing them of blasphemy, anti-christs and claim that the bibel have the words of satan.

here is one of thier movies. just watch the fist 20 or so minutes of it

https://youtu.be/-3NmATBhsX4


attacking the bible and Christians who don't follow them



Carm? Really you take advice and direction from that man? He is a misogynist.
 
Old 07-07-2018, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Carm? Really you take advice and direction from that man? He is a misogynist.

crying misogyny is not an argument



Why don't you read what they say on the website and on thier youtube videos

in 2 of their movies, they called the bible words of satan



https://www.holyspiritspeaks.org/why...hin-the-bible/

hee they tell people to do away with the bible
 
Old 07-07-2018, 11:41 AM
 
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https://carm.org/what-is-eastern-lightning

they claim that Jesus returned in 1991 they have a youtube channel with movies where actors attack the bible and attack other Christians accusing them of blasphemy, anti-christs and claim that the bibel have the words of satan.

here is one of thier movies. just watch the fist 20 or so minutes of it

https://youtu.be/-3NmATBhsX4


attacking the bible and Christians who don't follow them
Did you ever stop to think that maybe those videos are a smear tact campaign to attack church congregations in China?
 
Old 07-07-2018, 11:43 AM
 
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crying misogyny is not an argument



Why don't you read what they say on the website and on thier youtube videos

in 2 of their movies, they called the bible words of satan



https://www.holyspiritspeaks.org/why...hin-the-bible/

hee they tell people to do away with the bible

I do not consort with misogynists, racists, and bigots. I correct them.
 
Old 07-07-2018, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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calling the Bible outdated

https://www.holyspiritspeaks.org/lea...betraying-god/

and claiming Jesus never quoted nor use the old testament. these folks carter to people why are ignorant of the bible

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… During the time of Jesus, Jesus led the Jews and all those who followed Him according to the Holy Spirit’s work in Him at the time. He didn’t take the Bible as the basis of what He did, but spoke according to His work; He paid no heed to what the Bible said, nor did He search in the Bible for a path to lead His followers. Right from when He began to work, He spread the way of repentance—a word of which there was absolutely no mention in the prophecies of the Old Testament. Not only did He not act according to the Bible, but He also led a new path, and did new work. Never did He refer to the Bible when He preached. During the Age of Law, no one had ever been able to perform His miracles of healing the sick and casting out demons. His work, His teachings, His authority—no one had done this during the Age of Law. Jesus simply did His newer work, and even though many people condemned Him using the Bible—and even used the Old Testament to crucify Him—His work surpassed the Old Testament; if this were not so, why did people nail Him to the cross? Was it not because it said nothing in the Old Testament of His teaching, and His ability to heal the sick and cast out demons? His work was in order to lead a new path, it was not to deliberately pick a fight against the Bible, or to deliberately dispense with the Old Testament. He simply came to perform His ministry, to bring the new work to those who yearned for and sought Him. He didn’t come to explain the Old Testament or uphold its work.

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The work of today is not history, and as such, if you wish to walk the new path of today, then you must depart from the Bible, you must go beyond the books of prophecy or history in the Bible. Only then will you be able to walk the new path properly, and only then will you be able to enter into the new realm and the new work. You must understand why, today, you are asked not to read the Bible, why there is another work that is separate from the Bible, why God does not look for newer, more detailed practice in the Bible, why there is instead mightier work outside of the Bible. This is all what you should understand.
telling people to reject the bible in favour of their books


https://www.holyspiritspeaks.org/whi...of-prophecies/

more false teachings

Man believes that, following the crucifixion and resurrection, Jesus went back to heaven upon a white cloud, and took His place at the Most High’s right hand. Similarly, man conceives that Jesus shall descend, again upon a white cloud (this cloud refers to the cloud that Jesus rode upon when He returned to heaven), among those who have desperately yearned for Him for thousands of years, and that He shall bear the image and clothes of the Jews. After appearing to man, He shall bestow food upon them, and cause living water to gush forth for them, and shall live among man, full of grace and love, living and real. And so on. Yet Jesus the Savior did not do this; He did the opposite of what man conceived. He did not arrive among those who had yearned for His return, and did not appear to all men while riding upon the white cloud. He has already arrived, but man does not know Him, and remains ignorant of His arrival. Man is only aimlessly awaiting Him, unaware that He has already descended upon a white cloud (the cloud which is His Spirit, His words, and His entire disposition and all that He is), and is now among a group of overcomers that He will make during the last days.

Jesus never went to heaven upon a white cloud he simply ascended and he will return the same way he ascended



anf finally

https://www.holyspiritspeaks.org/we-...-in-the-bible/

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All that is recorded within the Bible is limited and unable to represent all the work of God.
 
Old 07-07-2018, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Did you ever stop to think that maybe those videos are a smear tact campaign to attack church congregations in China?

this ignorant statement proves you did not look at the videos the church members uploaded them

here is one of their videos it started with 1991 God incarnate appeared in China. that is not a smear campaign.

https://youtu.be/-3NmATBhsX4
 
Old 07-07-2018, 12:05 PM
 
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this ignorant statement proves you did not look at the videos the church members uploaded them

here is one of their videos it started with 1991 God incarnate appeared in China. that is not a smear campaign.

https://youtu.be/-3NmATBhsX4
https://youtu.be/rtksLsGXblY
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