Is the Pope speaking infallibly by declaring the death penalty to be anti-Christian? (lordship, dogma)
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Interesting thread. I may be mistaken, but I see no comments from a known Catholic on the board.
There is one crazy guy telling me I'M catholic. There are others chiming in on whether it's Biblical, others stating pork is not kosher, etc. Strange how this thread has wandered off course. I'll be interested to see how long that continues.
Must one identify themselves to be of a particular sect?
Personally, I like 80% of what the Pope has said, but must I confess to Catholicism to be counted
Must one identify themselves to be of a particular sect?
Personally, I like 80% of what the Pope has said, but must I confess to Catholicism to be counted
I'm just asking for their opinions. If I had a question about Mormon doctrine or pracitices, I'd want to talk to a Mormon, right? I've been told that I'm not qualified to speak about Mormonism because I'm not a Mormon. So I'd just be curious to see what a Catholic thinks.
They also had 613 rules they made up that are not Biblical and hey didn't even follow the ones God gave them.
Must I always be plagued by biblical ignoramuses?
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Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.
Exodus 21:17
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If there is anyone who curses his father or his mother, he shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother, his bloodguiltiness is upon him.
Leviticus 20:9
Oh, I'm sorry "stoning" is not "literally" in those verses, so using sticks is perfectly acceptable to kill those children!
The 613 rules that the Pharisees "made up" are each and everyone found in that "inerrant" bible you worship. From a right wing extremist bible-believer's website:
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There are a whole lot more than only 10 Commandments found in the Old Testament, there are 613 Commandments! Below is a list of the 613 mitzvot commandments (mitzvot is plural, mitzvah is singular).
Is the Pope infallible in his recent statements on it? I'd love to get the opinion of my Catholic friends, please.
Wikipedia
Papal infallibility
Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church that states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of error "when, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility
Papal infallibility is official dogma of the Catholic church, because the Catholic church has declared it to be so. The perpetual virginity of Mary has also been declared official dogma by the Catholic church. The possibility that Mary's chasity was ever compromised is repuganant to humanity, according to the Catholic church. Joseph was an old man, a widower, when he married Mary, incapable of sexual relations. The siblings of Jesus as mentioned in the Gospels:
Mark 6:
[3] Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
Matt. 13:
55] Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
Were actually the product of Joseph's first marriage. Again, according to Catholic dogma.
Are these conclusions affirmed in the NT? Well, no. But they COULD be true. Truth by popular declaration has always been a part of Christian mythology.
To think those people kept kosher all their life to then begin eating swine is ridiculous, Those Jewish believers became even more zealous in keeping the law, they didn't change because you want to think of them in sin, they didn't eat pork and I have every reason in the world to make this claim. For you to insinuate that they began eating swine is saying that they are going to go against everything they were taught or knew, it's ridiculous.
Jesus made all things clean. To cling to the Old Testament teaching of unclean and forbidden foods simply demonstrates that you do not understand what Jesus did and what is taught in the New Testament.
Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church that states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of error "when, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility
Papal infallibility is official dogma of the Catholic church, because the Catholic church has declared it to be so. The perpetual virginity of Mary has also been declared official dogma by the Catholic church. The possibility that Mary's chasity was ever compromised is repuganant to humanity, according to the Catholic church. Joseph was an old man, a widower, when he married Mary, incapable of sexual relations. The siblings of Jesus as mentioned in the Gospels:
Mark 6:
[3] Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
Matt. 13:
55] Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
Were actually the product of Joseph's first marriage. Again, according to Catholic dogma.
Are these conclusions affirmed in the NT? Well, no. But they COULD be true. Truth by popular declaration has always been a part of Christian mythology.
That is correct. For an edict of the Pope to be considered infallible, he must declare that he is speaking ex-cathedra from the throne of St. Peter. Otherwise it is a direction and subject to re-interpretation at a later time.
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