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Old 08-15-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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Are you insisting that it MUST be more evil now in order to satisfy some evil spiritual cancer in your heart. If the world is more evil now then maybe we should go back to that Roman culture you must yearn for so that we can become "better" like the good old days?

YOU detest God's Word because you only know how to use it to threaten or hurt others. You shame Jesus with with your pathetic attempts at protecting "God's Word." God needs no more of people that refuse to see it is through the cross (humility, degradation, self-sacrifice, and denial of one's "rights") that one glorifies God.

Keep to your own kind of searching of the "word." The only thing you will find is a death sentence under the "LAW." Until you find Jesus, the Bible will only speak to a heart of darkness.
You're a wolf masquerading in sheep's clothing. Jesus told us to beware of such. You do nothing but present a counterfeit love to consume on your own lusts.
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Old 08-15-2018, 04:19 PM
 
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Gulp....things are getting a bit...um...well, I don't have the words.
Oh...entertaining?
Those who do not believe the Bible follow their own desires. The following scripture would be meaningless if things were not to get worse at the "End".


KJV 2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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You're a wolf masquerading in sheep's clothing. Jesus told us to beware of such. You do nothing but present a counterfeit love to consume on your own lusts.
Jesus spoke of you as well

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The good man brings good things out of the good treasure of his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil treasure of his heart. For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks.
Luke 6:45

You have definitely shown us what is in your heart----and none of us want it. There is no good news in your voice of doom and hatred, and it will win no one to Jesus.


But I forgive you anyways.
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Those who do not believe the Bible follow their own desires. The following scripture would be meaningless if things were not to get worse at the "End".


KJV 2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
You don't get it yourself. All of us speaking believe the "word of God." We just don't believe in idolizing it like you continue to do. As an idol it is a rule book, a how to book for those without the Spirit of Christ but who know they NEED something in their hand to "take care of them."

Living in the Spirit is living in constant danger. It means doubting oneself and continual searching for God.
It truly is diving off the cliff and trusting God to be there. And it doesn't mean "rescue" necessarily. It means the cross, people calling you a wolf in sheep's clothing, people stating you are boastful and blasphemous or claiming you are a lover of "pleasure." That is all I have gotten from the fundamentalists I left so many years ago. The Bible is a guide through the perils of our own culture, but it is not a solution anymore than hanging on to a Bible a praising the "way it was." (Would that be like it was in Jesus' day when it was not uncommon for a Roman citizen to have a wife for bearing children, a woman as arm candy at parties, a woman for sexual gratification, and often a young boy to mentor including having sex with him?) Is that what would make our society better? To go back to the "good old days?"

So why is it that there are hundreds if not thousands of testimonies on the internet by people who left the cult of fundamentalism, but not a SINGLE testimony from anyone who became a liberal Christian or agnostic only to return?


Think on it.

I pray you can find the peace that Jesus wants to give you instead of that rulebook for you to look up answers. It's not easy to change--that's why you must be born again.
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Those who do not believe the Bible follow their own desires.
<BLEEP>.
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The following scripture would be meaningless if things were not to get worse at the "End".
For the record, I would not be one of those that follows "their own desires'' as if I were some sexually perverted, gluttonous heathen...
just because I understand men have corrupted the purity and accuracy of scriptures.

When one is aligned with God...what does it matter...locked in a dungeon...or bathing in the sunshine.

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Old 08-16-2018, 04:33 AM
 
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Jesus spoke of you as well

Luke 6:45

You have definitely shown us what is in your heart----and none of us want it. There is no good news in your voice of doom and hatred, and it will win no one to Jesus.


But I forgive you anyways.
Satan quoted Scriptures to Jesus too, but he always distorted them. Nothing has changed.
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:37 AM
 
Location: New England
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Satan quoted Scriptures to Jesus too, but he always distorted them. Nothing has changed.
There is no good news in the way YOU "interpret the sciptures". It might tickle YOUR ears but that is as good as it gets.
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Those who do not believe the Bible follow their own desires. The following scripture would be meaningless if things were not to get worse at the "End".


KJV 2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
This is a good description of what can be seen coming from a fundamentalists mindset.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:33 AM
 
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There is no good news in the way YOU "interpret the sciptures". It might tickle YOUR ears but that is as good as it gets.
If you're dead in trespasses and sins, and refuse to repent, then the Gospel is bad news indeed. That's why you're offended.
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:16 AM
 
Location: New England
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If you're dead in trespasses and sins, and refuse to repent, then the Gospel is bad news indeed. That's why you're offended.
You are still are(that is obvious by your rants against sin) and the good news that there is not an ounce of unforgiveness in the deepest recesses of what we call God, is an offence and bad news to you.
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