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Old 08-18-2018, 01:19 PM
 
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You are a typical bible fundamentalist that bases a whole belief system on exaggerated verses. Where is the scripture that states Jesus said he is the ONLY way to the Father.... He said "I Am" the way to the Father, completely different to what you are claiming. Where does it say God separated himself from you? , you don't have a single verse, admit it?. Show me 1 single verse that clearly states that Jesus came to save us from hell to heaven, you can't admit. At the very least consider that you are not basing your beliefs on what the scripture says.
I'll show you where!

Jesus plainly said that He is the only way to the Father in the very verse which you deliberately avoided mentioning the last half of. Even in the first half of the verse, Jesus didn't say that He was 'a' way, but that He is 'the' way.
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

Acts 4:12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear.

Because sin did result in mankind being separated from God, Jesus went to the cross to die for the sins of the world thereby removing sin as a barrier between God and man. The issue now is whether a person will receive Christ as Savior. Those who don't do not have their names in the book of life and will be sent to the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
And all of your usual denials, and twisting of the scriptures, and disingenuousness can't change what the Bible says.
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Old 08-18-2018, 01:27 PM
 
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I'll show you where!

Jesus plainly said that He is the only way to the Father in the very verse which you deliberately avoided mentioning the last half of. Even in the first half of the verse, Jesus didn't say that He was 'a' way, but that He is 'the' way.
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

Acts 4:12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear.

Because sin did result in mankind being separated from God, Jesus went to the cross to die for the sins of the world thereby removing sin as a barrier between God and man. The issue now is whether a person will receive Christ as Savior. Those who don't do not have their names in the book of life and will be sent to the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
And all of your usual denials, and twisting of the scriptures, and disingenuousness can't change what the Bible says. But you will of course continue to deny, and twist, and be disingenusous, and act, while looking down your nose at fundamentalists, like you're some kind of spiritual giant. You aren't.
Ironically, neither are you who believe in eternal damnation.
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Old 08-18-2018, 01:35 PM
 
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Speak for yourself. Don't tar all with your sinful brush. Just because you are weak-willed and morally ambivalent doesn't mean everyone is.
You're lying right now. All humans get jealous, are selfish, greedy, lie, brag, etc. at certain times sin their lives. To deny that, as you just did, is to only confirm it.
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Old 08-18-2018, 01:36 PM
 
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I'll show you where!

Jesus plainly said that He is the only way to the Father in the very verse which you deliberately avoided mentioning the last half of. Even in the first half of the verse, Jesus didn't say that He was 'a' way, but that He is 'the' way.
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

Acts 4:12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear.

Because sin did result in mankind being separated from God, Jesus went to the cross to die for the sins of the world thereby removing sin as a barrier between God and man. The issue now is whether a person will receive Christ as Savior. Those who don't do not have their names in the book of life and will be sent to the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
And all of your usual denials, and twisting of the scriptures, and disingenuousness can't change what the Bible says.
Apparently several posters in this thread belong to a group called The Way:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_International

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Old 08-18-2018, 01:42 PM
 
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You're lying right now. All humans get jealous, are selfish, greedy, lie, brag, etc. at certain times sin their lives. To deny that, as you just did, is to only confirm it.
Reverse psychology doesn't work on mature adults. And no, all humans do not get jealous, nor do they lie, cheat or steal, etc. Just because you have come to believe that, doesn't make it true. Try taking responsibility for your own action, instead of placing them on other people.
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Old 08-18-2018, 01:50 PM
 
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Reverse psychology doesn't work on mature adults. And no, all humans do not get jealous, nor do they lie, cheat or steal, etc. Just because you have come to believe that, doesn't make it true. Try taking responsibility for your own action, instead of placing them on other people.
So you don't sin? You've kinda painted yourself in a corner if you're making that claim, because it has been posted several times:

If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:10

Run, don't walk from The Way.
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Old 08-18-2018, 01:50 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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You're lying right now. All humans get jealous, are selfish, greedy, lie, brag, etc. at certain times sin their lives. To deny that, as you just did, is to only confirm it.

It's truly unfortunate you cannot stop sinning. Sorry as I feel for you, I feel much sorrier for Sophia.
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Old 08-18-2018, 01:54 PM
Status: "Smacking fundies." (set 6 days ago)
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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So you don't sin? You've kinda painted yourself in a corner if you're making that claim, because it has been posted several times:

If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:10

Run, don't walk from The Way.

The bible got a lot of things wrong. That's just one more.
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Old 08-18-2018, 01:57 PM
 
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It's truly unfortunate you cannot stop sinning. Sorry as I feel for you, I feel much sorrier for Sophia.
I'm confused; I thought that you didn't believe in sin?
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Old 08-18-2018, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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So you're a member of The Way too? I had vaguely heard of it, but you guys must know each other personally from conferences. I'm just telling you the truth in love guys, you're following a cult that doesn't preach the true gospel.
No, Sophiasmommy. you are confusing an organization with a way of life. "The Way, Inc" or however they style themselves got their name from what the earliest Christians called themselves (see Acts 9:22 and 22:4).
Those of us who identify and deny the doctrines of men that have plagued the church from the beginning identify the basic message of Jesus as "the Way." May I suggest that you commit Matthew 5:43-48 to memory and consider everything you do in that light? That, in a nutshell, is "the Way."
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