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Old 08-28-2018, 05:43 PM
 
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One can and seriously should evaluate themselves if such determines that the act of unconsented sexual activity is okay at least if one of them is of age. Get yourself in check before having a bleeding heart for the perpetrator. Few want reformed and more admit that there is no reason to conform to society just because they have a different desire .
Go visit parts of thailand. ..where parents willingly pimp their kids ..as young as two. They actually have clubs with police kickbacks to allow this perversion to endure.
The profession doesn't protect the ailment..and it's not an ailment most recipients with this pedophilia want to modify.
Just close the drapes and let them exist...Augh!!! I'm glad most speak up and do get repulsed..
Sounds like fiction to me.
And just as ole Elihu loves to lie. He lies about distant lands.
I have friends from where you speak of. And they are dismayed by American media that consistently promotes paranoia and filth.
Actually I've had to help a few friends to adjust to the nonsense here.

They typically rather go back home after hearing how social media promotes criminal activity.
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Old 08-28-2018, 06:02 PM
 
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So Thankful for Voice of the Faithful, SNAP, and Spotlight, as w/o those, all over the nation, these perverts would still be getting away w/o any public attention.
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Old 08-28-2018, 08:14 PM
 
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Thanks, mensaguy, for prompting Janelle to respond to the question asked of her regarding whether or not homosexuals (most of whom are pedophiles according to Janelle) should be executed. Here is a guy, Steven Anderson, who certainly believes this and he is very vocal about it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVseLfwfCMA
So now you are lumping me with him. Very evil I would say. Stop putting words in my mouth, I have been traveling and not on here everyday.

Gays in the priesthood need to be celibate. I never made those rules but they are the rules. Priests are married to the church.
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Old 08-28-2018, 08:30 PM
 
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So now you are lumping me with him. Very evil I would say. Stop putting words in my mouth, I have been traveling and not on here everyday.

Gays in the priesthood need to be celibate. I never made those rules but they are the rules. Priests are married to the church.
They are paid to slander.
Leave em be.

They will be dealt with shortly.
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Old 08-28-2018, 08:40 PM
 
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Most on this thread will no doubt give you a firm pat on the back for your tone of hatred aimed toward these people. .
That's nice.

On the other hand, like bishops and the pope, you are trying to sweep this under the rug.

Not gonna happen.

I think fairly soon we will see successful prosecutions of Bishops hiding their beloved perps, under RICO.

Pa is far larger in perps and victims than Boston was. It also featured kiddie porn made by priests, and fairly sure that has a longer Statue of Limitations, btw.

I would not be surprised if Pope resigns.
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:04 PM
 
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That's nice.

On the other hand, like bishops and the pope, you are trying to sweep this under the rug.

Not gonna happen.

I think fairly soon we will see successful prosecutions of Bishops hiding their beloved perps, under RICO.

Pa is far larger in perps and victims than Boston was. It also featured kiddie porn made by priests, and fairly sure that has a longer Statue of Limitations, btw.

I would not be surprised if Pope resigns.
Bob, I'm willing to concede and this is why I've not responded to anything here in the past couple of days. You've made your point, as have others, and I really have nothing else to say other than what I've already said. What will happen is what will happen regardless of anything we might say here. I guess my main problem with this particular topic is the total lack of understanding by others as to why people do some of the things that they do. These 'bad people' are often 'wounded' and they are even referred to as being 'sick' by many of those who protest their behavior. A pastor I knew would occasionally remark as to how so many Christians would rather shoot their sick and their wounded than to try and understand what is driving these people and as to how they can be helped.

As a former 'child victim' myself (not so much sexual but certainly of physical and emotional abuse at the hands of one or two state-appointed employees) I find it difficult, now as a very mature man, to hold any bitterness toward these people for things that occurred so long ago. That's just the way I'm made. I forgive. I forgave my abusive father whose appalling behavior landed me, my older sister and brother, into an institution for wards of the state in the first place. He died quite a few years ago now but my forgiving him made him, in his own words, feel like a human being again. Hanging on to, and being encouraged to harbor bitterness is SO destructive. When I forgave my father I was temporarily floating on air. What a positive closure to what was, even though a loss of my childhood within the 'free world' for a half-dozen years, an experience that helped me become the person I became! And, one thing that really irks me is the well worn expression that has become so overblown ..."scarred for life." No one is 'scarred for life' except by choice so please stop encouraging these folks to remain victims!

On another thread a recent video was presented where a transgender person explains to a church congregation what he/she encountered growing up knowing that he was a she in a male body and as to how his parents disowned him/her. Few people understand the situation of the transgender person ...including me. However, he/she was well received by the congregation. Anyway, I couldn't help but wonder what the reaction might be if a pedophile were to get up in a similar situation and pour out his (usually a 'he') plight to a congregation of Christians of having desires that he never volunteered for ...a cry for help. I think we all know the answer to that.
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:19 PM
 
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Romulus, you are absolutely right, but don't forget that a LARGE part (if not the biggest) of the nimus is about the ones who covered up what they knew was happening even if they did not participate directly. I will also stipulate that they aredeluded in their concern for their power, but that is somewhat removd from the primal urges you note.
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:04 PM
 
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We hate the sin but love the sinner. BUT it seems we are loving the sinner too much and giving them the benefit of the doubt as well as looking the other way. If people are coming off as unforgiving now it's because they have been lied to over and over again that this problem has been taken care of then we see it hasn't, but in fact has been growing worse. People are at the end of their rope now and are demanding changes that will be transparent to all.
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Old 08-29-2018, 12:25 AM
 
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Romulus, you are absolutely right, but don't forget that a LARGE part (if not the biggest) of the nimus is about the ones who covered up what they knew was happening even if they did not participate directly. I will also stipulate that they aredeluded in their concern for their power, but that is somewhat removd from the primal urges you note.
Back in the day that I'm referring to - the mid-1950's - society was very different to that of today. For instance, had anyone reported to the superintendent any of the abuse that went on in Fulwood Cottage Homes (the place I was housed in) it's doubtful that the police would have been called. It would have been dealt with internally. Yes, people may have been fired but then allowed to find employment elsewhere in a similar position. That's just the way it was. People seem to be oblivious to the fact that some of the things we might regard serious today were seen differently decades ago. This was also before psychology had taken a hold and told us how damaged we were/are.
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Old 08-29-2018, 12:39 AM
 
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Thanks, mensaguy, for prompting Janelle to respond to the question asked of her regarding whether or not homosexuals (most of whom are pedophiles according to Janelle) should be executed. Here is a guy, Steven Anderson, who certainly believes this and he is very vocal about it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVseLfwfCMA
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So now you are lumping me with him. Very evil I would say. Stop putting words in my mouth, I have been traveling and not on here everyday.
While I don't want to prolong my time here any more than is necessary, I had to respond to this post. I didn't say that I was lumping you with Steven Anderson, Janelle. I had asked for your position as to what you would suggest as a 'solution' for dealing with homosexuals and I simply presented Anderson's response to the same question.

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Gays in the priesthood need to be celibate. I never made those rules but they are the rules. Priests are married to the church.
They may have every intention of remaining celibate when they enter the priesthood. But ...<sigh> ...these young men are human. I would doubt that any of them sign up to become pedophiles. My God ...do any of you even WANT to understand how aberrations can occur in human beings within certain situations?!?
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