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Old 09-06-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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Are you an advocate for killing people or merely condemning them?
NO, I am not for killing or condemning anyone for these kinds of things, that is medieval style thinking.

Its more rational to acknowledge and admit that we do not yet know how to effectively cure or treat them...NOT to just say its totally impossible and these people need to be shunned from society, jailed, or killed off!! What would the world be like if still had mindsets like that regarding some other mental disorders of the past that we HAVE successfully found ways to treat/cure?!!
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Old 09-06-2018, 02:43 PM
 
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How would you know?
I rely on all the religious scholars who lived before me. I study and I learn from them.
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Old 09-06-2018, 02:47 PM
 
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NO, I am not for killing or condemning anyone for these kinds of things, that is medieval style thinking.

Its more rational to acknowledge and admit that we do not yet know how to effectively cure or treat them...NOT to just say its totally impossible and these people need to be shunned from society, jailed, or killed off!! What would the world be like if still had mindsets like that regarding some other mental disorders of the past that we HAVE successfully found ways to treat/cure?!!
This is not the Christian way either. Hate the sin, love the sinner.

Getting back to the subject of the thread, molesters need to be stopped, no matter how they molest.
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Old 09-06-2018, 05:39 PM
 
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Maybe its possible we just do not yet know how to successfully cure or treat it?

At one time there were many other mental and physical diseases which had no cure or treatment...but eventually some were created or discovered.

Leprosy is a good example, before the cure/treatment, everyone believed there was NO cure/treatment, all lepers should just be shunned from society or worse, killed off.
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NO, I am not for killing or condemning anyone for these kinds of things, that is medieval style thinking.

Its more rational to acknowledge and admit that we do not yet know how to effectively cure or treat them...NOT to just say its totally impossible and these people need to be shunned from society, jailed, or killed off!! What would the world be like if still had mindsets like that regarding some other mental disorders of the past that we HAVE successfully found ways to treat/cure?!!
Treat who? Heterosexul's, homosexuals, or the rapists and child-molesters?
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Old 09-07-2018, 06:59 AM
 
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Treat who? Heterosexul's, homosexuals, or the rapists and child-molesters?
I was referring to child molesters/ pedophilia...have to figure out what makes them do this in the first place, why they have an attraction to kids. Its not about whether they can marry or be in relationships with women, (as most convicted child mol are married).

Something is causing this, whether its a mental disorder or something else, I dont think people are born this way.
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Old 09-07-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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Buffalo Bishop Refuses to Resign As Criminal Probe Looms over Mishandled Allegations
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Old 09-07-2018, 09:11 PM
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/06/n...sex-abuse.html
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Old 09-07-2018, 10:11 PM
 
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World Over - 2018-09-06 – Letter to Pope Francis from Catholic Women with Raymond Arroyo


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DR. JANET SMITH, professor of moral theology at Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit, and ALEXANDRA DESANCTIS, journalist and staff writer at National Review discuss the Letter to Pope Francis from Catholic Women, why they signed on to it and what answers they hope to receive from Rome.
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Old 09-07-2018, 10:15 PM
 
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He Preyed on Men Who Wanted to Be Priests. Then He Became a Cardinal.

"Because bishops have control over priests’ assignments and complete loyalty is expected by the church’s clerical culture, seminarians and priests can be especially vulnerable to sexual harassment by their superiors.

“In the corporate world, there are ways to report misconduct,” Mr. Ciolek, 57, said at his home in New Jersey. “You have an H.R. contact, you have a legal department, or you have anonymous reporting, you have systems. Does the Catholic Church have that? How is a priest supposed to report abuse or wrong activity by his bishop? What is their stated vehicle for anyone to do that? I don’t think it exists.”
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Old 09-08-2018, 07:08 AM
 
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He Preyed on Men Who Wanted to Be Priests. Then He Became a Cardinal.

"Because bishops have control over priests’ assignments and complete loyalty is expected by the church’s clerical culture, seminarians and priests can be especially vulnerable to sexual harassment by their superiors.

“In the corporate world, there are ways to report misconduct,” Mr. Ciolek, 57, said at his home in New Jersey. “You have an H.R. contact, you have a legal department, or you have anonymous reporting, you have systems. Does the Catholic Church have that? How is a priest supposed to report abuse or wrong activity by his bishop? What is their stated vehicle for anyone to do that? I don’t think it exists.”
I no longer have any hope the RCC cares to rid itself of its massive pedophilia problem, which I suspect, has always risen straight to the top, in terms of the institutions deceptive coverup actions.
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