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Old 09-11-2018, 10:21 AM
 
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a gay citizen can get married, have a family. Catholic priests can not do any of this. Till the catholic clergy is more main stream the church will continue to have abuse issues.


not a smart thing to attend catholic church.
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Old 09-11-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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a gay citizen can get married, have a family. Catholic priests can not do any of this. Till the catholic clergy is more main stream the church will continue to have abuse issues.


not a smart thing to attend catholic church.
Many people that are caught molesting kids are married though...?

I dont think there is any link between forced celibacy and pedophilia.
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Old 09-11-2018, 08:09 PM
 
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So, has this thread now fully taken to 'gay bashing'? Are homosexual people really seen as 'evil' possessing 'a disease straight from hell', Janelle? Is that ALL homosexuals? If so - and I'll ask again - how do you suggest that society deals with homosexual people who are here to stay unless ...well, what method DO you suggest to eliminate them ...?
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So what do you suggest be done to gay pedophile priests . . .
You use the term 'gay pedophile priests' much of the time, Janelle. Has it been established that 'pedophile priests' are homosexuals? Has it been established that all homosexuals are 'pedophiles waiting to happen'? It's THIS, Janelle, that underlies all of your postings on this issue ...that it's homosexuals that have to be dealt with because you appear to agree with the quote that homosexuals 'are evil' and they 'possess a disease straight from hell'.

As for what "I" might suggest be done with your 'pedophile priests'...it's the law, not I, that dictates what penalty should be applied to them for any misdeeds. Moreover, if I don't agree with you and the majority of people that they be locked up and the key thrown away then I somehow acquire the label of 'enabler'.

However, I did say in my initial post on this topic that I really don't give a damn what anyone might think of my viewpoint. It's mine, not yours, nor anyone else's. And, I've made my viewpoint fairly clear in the past that assistance for the 'broken' among us, which is what these pitiful people have become, would be more conducive long term for society than their doing jail time. I would even go out on a limb here and suggest that even many of the 'victims' of sexual abuse might agree with this methodology for their abusers were they not rather encouraged by society to demonstrate 'getting even'. When anyone can demonstrate to me that 'revenge' actually works, then I might begin to think differently.


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. . .or gay priests to sexually abuse men in the seminary?
This is ridiculous! What kind of wimps are these 'men' in the seminary who allow themselves to be 'sexually abused'? They need to 'grow a pair' and deal with any unwanted advances ALL BY THEMSELVES! Geez . . .how much molly-coddling of grown men do you want?
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Old 09-11-2018, 08:32 PM
 
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a gay citizen can get married, have a family. Catholic priests can not do any of this. Till the catholic clergy is more main stream the church will continue to have abuse issues.

not a smart thing to attend catholic church.
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Many people that are caught molesting kids are married though...?

I dont think there is any link between forced celibacy and pedophilia.
However, every human being has some form of a sexual urge (those who believe the Creation story can perhaps blame God for this) and one may find themselves at times in situations where the flesh IS certainly weak. While the results of giving in to one's innate sexual desires can be life destroying for them (and, according to society, also for their 'victim') anyone who can't at least understand how these things can happen to probably any human being or most human beings is hardly a human being themselves. I really don't believe that those young men who joined the seminary had anything other than honorable intentions initially. They were good people and not monsters. Situations, however, can occur, often without warning, where innate sexual desires may kick in and - wallah - a crime has been committed. And, since no help is available for the 'one timer' who recognizes the wrongness of his deed and may wish to seek help, these things may become a habit over time.
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Old 11-18-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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https://nypost.com/2018/11/17/the-va...ericans-faith/

Very fair assessment of Vatican City's latest error in judgment regarding this issue.
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