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Old 08-15-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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We all have a natural sexual inclination, but the question is: Is it age appropriated and consensual?
What is missed in the concern over it is that it is primarily a carnal pleasure drive that has no intrinsic spiritual value. It is lust-driven. When we apply age-appropriate and consensual considerations and add agape love we are applying spiritual controls over this otherwise base carnal drive and are adding spirituality to it. None of our base carnal drives have ANY innate discriminatory control which is what makes them dangerous in an adult. Humans are capable of being the most dangerous, ruthless, and cruel animals on the planet without spiritual (conscious control) over their basic urges.
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:46 PM
 
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This flew right over the heads of those who are extreme fundamentalists or homophobic.

Yep, we are afraid the gay mafia will take down the church. They sure are trying.
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:51 PM
 
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Does anyone on here know the priesthood means to be celibate. I don't want to hear about their sexual inclinations. They are suppose to give all that up when they are ordained. Don't want to give up sex, don't become a celibate priest.


Don't become a priest to be with all the boys and other gay men so you can hide your sexual inclinations.
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:48 AM
 
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Does anyone on here know the priesthood means to be celibate. I don't want to hear about their sexual inclinations. They are suppose to give all that up when they are ordained. Don't want to give up sex, don't become a celibate priest.


Don't become a priest to be with all the boys and other gay men so you can hide your sexual inclinations.
When you repress or suppress the natural inclination ...it manifests itself in other ways. Let them have their own wives; and stop forcing people to be eunuchs! Unfortunately, I don't think it is possible to castrate every priest or those who like their porn? But I do believe that those who violate (rape and molest) innocent women and children should be.

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Old 08-16-2018, 02:49 PM
 
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When you repress or suppress the natural inclination ...it manifests itself in other ways. Let them have their own wives; and stop forcing people to be eunuchs! Unfortunately, I don't think it is possible to castrate every priest or those who like their porn? But I do believe that those who violate (rape and molest) innocent women and children should be.
They are well aware of that but we are suppose to sacrifice. I am aware of the porn epidemic and it is hurting people and families. It's also known married men abuse so marriage is not the answer.

Taking vows and living up to them is the answer, no matter how hard it is. Many devote priests and others do.
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:14 PM
 
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I wonder how many pedophile priests there have been in the 800 years since celibacy was instituted within the RC church.

I realize there are married men who are also pedophiles but I think the institution of celibacy works to channel some priest's sexuality to other men and boys just as occurs with some men in prison.

Time to overturn the RC rule of celibacy and get some married men on the job.

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Old 08-16-2018, 10:19 PM
 
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The Church is 2,000 years old, not 800. Married men also abuse so that is not the answer. Living your faith is. Don't want to do that then don't join or resign.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:45 PM
 
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I wonder how many pedophile priests there have been in the 800 years since celibacy was instituted within the RC church.

I realize there are married men who are also pedophiles but I think the institution of celibacy works to channel some priest's sexuality to other men and boys just as occurs with some men in prison.

Time to overturn the RC rule of celibacy and get some married men on the job.
If they don't, then a few more doors will be closed.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:49 PM
 
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The Church is 2,000 years old, not 800. Married men also abuse so that is not the answer. Living your faith is. Don't want to do that then don't join or resign.
Learn the Church history, they were not always celibate.
And there is nothing that prevents the Pope from changing it.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:57 PM
 
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The Church is 2,000 years old, not 800. Married men also abuse so that is not the answer. Living your faith is. Don't want to do that then don't join or resign.
Yes but until the 12th century priests were allowed to marry. There were married priests far longer than the rule of priestly celibacy has been in force.

These pedophile priests and the bishops and cardinals that aided and abetted them need to be rooted out. They have to replaced with something different. If not then the RC church is done.

Sow the wind, reap the Wuerlwind. KWIM?
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