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Old 08-12-2018, 12:14 PM
 
Location: New England
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And self-imposed condemnation.
That too.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:19 PM
 
Location: USA
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That too.
On the bright side, for those of us who existed in that place most firmly and for any length of time, the experience of coming out from under it is almost indescribably amazing. Freeing, exhilarating, life-changing. And I expect the same experience for those who are still there, at some point.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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The trouble is people who ignore what Jesus said to their own peril. There is a HUGE convergence of signs nowadays that no other generation can claim.
Except the next one, who will claim it as their own long after you are gone.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:27 PM
 
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Except the next one, who will claim it as their own long after you are gone.
Truth.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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Let's hope that's not the mindset of most. But for those whom it is, it can't becoming from a heart that experiences much love or joy, and that is unfortunate for them.
This is true, and I also hope it's not the mindset of most. Having grown up in a very dark, sin-and-death-and-hell oriented Calvinistic sect of Christianity, I unfortunately remember all too well the way the darkness drew so many in and how fear ruled and was chosen over anything light and good. It was almost as if anything pleasant and uplifting was by default wrong. The alarm bells go off now when I see it again from the perspective of one who got away.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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If Jesus spoke about it, why do you consider it unimportant? Is it not applicable to today?
I don't think the conversation was about a literal end-of-the-world event. I don't get into arguments over the minutiae of Bible verses or indulge in quotefests with literalists anymore, so we can just leave it at that.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: New England
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On the bright side, for those of us who existed in that place most firmly and for any length of time, the experience of coming out from under it is almost indescribably amazing. Freeing, exhilarating, life-changing. And I expect the same experience for those who are still there, at some point.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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I have trouble understanding that mindset and the "why" of the
fixation on it and more creepily, the apparent desire for it to be true.
Ah, and you are so lucky and being protected not to understand it.

You want me to help you understand it? It's really quite simple psychologically...yet, involved with it's layers.
I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings I can give you the run down in private.

Everyone is at their perfect stage....After all, Einstein would think I was in Kindergarten!
Yogananda would show pity on me...just kidding... He'd say come back to my ashram in 3 years of intense meditation...and with compasson.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:39 PM
 
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That was the devil that was partying inside us! Don't forget I was an Evangelical...
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: New England
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On the bright side, for those of us who existed in that place most firmly and for any length of time, the experience of coming out from under it is almost indescribably amazing. Freeing, exhilarating, life-changing. And I expect the same experience for those who are still there, at some point.
The bright side of it too is that multitudes are being set free from a way of thinking that there was no need to sucuumb to in the first place.Without doubt there is a huge shift away these belief systems that not only make no sense whatsoever but never benefited anyone in the slightest other than appease the fearful that that were not going to hell they believed was real and promoted.
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