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Old 08-17-2018, 11:52 AM
 
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Hanny, The scriptures tell us to grow in the grace and the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. No one knew God like Jesus Christ, so it seems pretty obvious to grow we need to be listening to his knowledge of God even beyond Solomon's and all the other prophets and patriarchs, the scriptures also tell us that Jesus Christ is in us, so we don't have to go very far to hear the one whose word is Spirit and Life. So when you speak of reward, there is no greater reward than the one who is in us, who is our hope of living in the same glory he lived by.
It says it is in those truly following him and that includes using scripture to make the points, not rejecting it. Many claim the spirit but few have it and an easy way to tell who does not is how they speak of and treat the Scriptures.



Uniquely they pick and chose from Scripture and yet reject what they don't want to hear or have to do, believe, observe, etc. Simple test; be in agreement with scripture and recognize it as inspired or ... the person has the wrong spirit.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:00 PM
 
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It says it is in those truly following him and that includes using scripture to make the points, not rejecting it. Many claim the spirit but few have it and an easy way to tell who does not is how they speak of and treat the Scriptures.



Uniquely they pick and chose from Scripture and yet reject what they don't want to hear or have to do, believe, observe, etc. Simple test; be in agreement with scripture and recognize it as inspired or ... the person has the wrong spirit.
No it does not say that . In fact Paul said the mystery that was hid through the ages is Christ is in us. Of cause it is only revealed to those who believe in the way of Jesus Christ. In other words believing Jews understood the revelation of Jesus Christ and him being in us that was hidden through the ages took this revelation to the Gentiles.

Col 1:26-27 Aramaic Bible

That mystery which was hidden from the world and from generations but now has been revealed to his Holy Ones, Those to whom God has chosen to make known what is the wealth of the glory of this mystery among the nations, which is The Messiah, who is in you, the hope of our glory.

Read it again Expat and tell me what is the wealth of the glory of "this" mystery among the nations that being taken to the nations?.

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Uniquely they pick and chose from Scripture and yet reject what they don't want to hear or have to do, believe, observe, etc. Simple test; be in agreement with scripture and recognize it as inspired or ... the person has the wrong spirit"

Well are you going to reject this great mystery of Christ being in ALL of us?.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Mars City
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Many of the Indians of our very land commonly sought and worshipped "The Great Spirit", and yet had no written words or written history. Many who later learned to communicate in English, and learned of the Bible, shared witness of the similarity of The Great Spirit and God. Countless other connections through the history of time across the planet also point in the same direction. Ignoring all of that is a choice though, and none of us can help the closed minded.

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Old 08-17-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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Many of the Indians of our very land commonly sought and worshipped "The Great Spirit", and yet had no written words or written history. Many that later learned to communicate in English shared witness of the similarity of The Great Spirit and God. That speaks for itself.
What makes you think the Great Spirit was the God of the Bible and not the God of this world, Satan? Look at how they treated each other and in many cases the old. Left them behind on the trail to die once of no value. Believing a God exists does not mean a person knows Him or is known by Him.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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I don't really think we can prove without the Bible. I think it makes us ask all kinds of questions, just like the OP has done. How can the Earth move through space and not be destroyed? How did our planet land at the perfect distance from the sun to garner life? I think without the Bible we generate a lot of questions with few answers.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:23 PM
 
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What makes you think the Great Spirit was the God of the Bible and not the God of this world, Satan? Look at how they treated each other and in many cases the old. Left them behind on the trail to die once of no value. Believing a God exists does not mean a person knows Him or is known by Him.
The "God of the Bible" directed "his" people to slaughter and destroy and rape other nations. So if your criteria for who worships "Satan" is based on how they treat others, what does that tell you?
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Mars City
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What makes you think the Great Spirit was the God of the Bible and not the God of this world, Satan? Look at how they treated each other and in many cases the old.
Well, you've certainly bought - hook, line, and sinker - the lies and mistruths of our American ancestors.

Americans were the ones playing the part of satan. But it's typical for people to reverse the blame to shield their crimes and actions. So here is yet another example.

Get an education and read how they really lived and thought. One great book is "Wisdom of the Native Americans" by --- Nerburn. If you have the guts to fight lies with the truth.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:33 PM
 
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Many of the Indians of our very land commonly sought and worshipped "The Great Spirit", and yet had no written words or written history. Many who later learned to communicate in English, and learned of the Bible, shared witness of the similarity of The Great Spirit and God. Countless other connections through the history of time across the planet also point in the same direction. Ignoring all of that is a choice though, and none of us can help the closed minded.
There is no denying it.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: New England
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This is what people say when they despise the religion of God, '' Don't read the bible unless you learn God's religion contradicts Christianity.''


O, here's an idea, ''Let's take advise about the bible from people who tell other people not to study it.''


Yeah, they really know what they are talking about.
I think it has already been said to you hanny, there is no religion of God. There is a way(now if you want to call that your religion, then fair enough)
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:37 PM
 
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I don't really think we can prove without the Bible. I think it makes us ask all kinds of questions, just like the OP has done. How can the Earth move through space and not be destroyed? How did our planet land at the perfect distance from the sun to garner life? I think without the Bible we generate a lot of questions with few answers.
Correct. Creation tells us there is a God and the Bible is His way of allowing us to come to know Him as a person and friend.
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