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Old 08-17-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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The "God of the Bible" directed "his" people to slaughter and destroy and rape other nations. So if your criteria for who worships "Satan" is based on how they treat others, what does that tell you?
It tells me you have no understanding of those events and how God will yet take care of it in the future. A hint, it is called a resurrection.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:41 PM
 
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No it does not say that . In fact Paul said the mystery that was hid through the ages is Christ is in us. Of cause it is only revealed to those who believe in the way of Jesus Christ. In other words believing Jews understood the revelation of Jesus Christ and him being in us that was hidden through the ages took this revelation to the Gentiles.

Col 1:26-27 Aramaic Bible

That mystery which was hidden from the world and from generations but now has been revealed to his Holy Ones, Those to whom God has chosen to make known what is the wealth of the glory of this mystery among the nations, which is The Messiah, who is in you, the hope of our glory.

Read it again Expat and tell me what is the wealth of the glory of "this" mystery among the nations that being taken to the nations?.

You said this "
Uniquely they pick and chose from Scripture and yet reject what they don't want to hear or have to do, believe, observe, etc. Simple test; be in agreement with scripture and recognize it as inspired or ... the person has the wrong spirit"

Well are you going to reject this great mystery of Christ being in ALL of us?.
The problem is you do not understand what the word "Mystery" meant in Greek (Mysterion). The English meaning is misleading. Study, not just reading is required and .... still without a heart towards God, no spirit to help understand it.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:54 PM
 
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It tells me you have no understanding of those events and how God will yet take care of it in the future. A hint, it is called a resurrection.

I don't think it's even possible to untwist that pretzel. If killing, raping and pillaging by any group of people is satanic, then calling it God-inspired behavior by another group defies the Spirit of the God who is love as well as logic.
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Old 08-17-2018, 01:03 PM
 
Location: New England
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The problem is you do not understand what the word "Mystery" meant in Greek (Mysterion). The English meaning is misleading. Study, not just reading is required and .... still without a heart towards God, no spirit to help understand it.
It tells you in the verse, of cause it is not what you want to hear because you have given yourself over to the doctrines of men passed off to be the word of God.

Through the ages man as he sought after God, he went from seeing God being above to God with us to God in us. It remains an hidden mystery to all those who have not earnestly sought after him.

Study?, i did that until i was like a walking dead epistle, then i came to know that there is someone who knows God better than anyone and in his leadings i began to grow in the grace and the knowledge of God.
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Old 08-17-2018, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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I think it has already been said to you hanny, there is no religion of God. There is a way(now if you want to call that your religion, then fair enough)
I don't usually speak of Satan in a way Christians use Satan, but what would be Satan's biggest agenda?


What is the main mission of Anti-Christ? Daniel's Anti-Christ came to turn the children of Israel away from their laws and their worship system. He built a nude gymnasium and sacrificed a swine and this greatly appealed to a lot of people who didn't love the laws of God, but Anti-Christ was greatly over come, and the children of Israel went right on keeping the laws and worship system of God.


Christianity was a sect of Judaism that grafted and adopted the Gentile in to Judaism, and 100 years after Jesus came, Anti-Christ came just as Daniel prophesied. Anti-Christ finally managed to turn Gentiles away from the laws and feasts, and the Jews went right on keeping the laws and feasts where Gentiles only lasted 100 years. Paul told his disciples that Jesus could not come to them as a thief because they were children of the light and they knew the appointed visitation days, but modern Christianity managed to make the religion of God illegal to keep, they forced lawlessness and paganism on the whole world, and only the Jews continued following God.


Now the modern Christian can't stomach sound doctrine because they have no doctrine, and modern Christians don't want people studying the word of God lest they find out the truth and repent to then accept a Jewish Messiah. Modern Christianity is not under the covenant of Messiah, and so of course, they are going to speak against accepting Jesus and his covenant when they inform you not to study the bible at all..........


I can't even find a modern Christian who will believe what Jesus says, much less, what Paul says.


You people invented your own lawless religion that is not only Against God, it is against anyone who would follow the religion of Messiah. How sad is it when a Christian claims to believe in a Jewish Messiah, but who rejects everything about that Messiah including the Passover lamb, and here he is teaching of the bible he tells people not to study.


On top of this, he thinks he has a holy spirit that is guiding him not to accept the religion of Messiah or any of the commandments of God.


On top of this, the very spirit he claims to have, it is a gift to the people who accept the feast that gives the gift...................That doesn't make the least bit of sense, and so modern Christianity has come down to 8 out of 10 Christians saying people shouldn't study the bible...


Maybe it is this day and age where everyone has knowledge at their fingertips, and the Christian is finally been shown how his belief contradicts everything about Jesus, and the religion of Jesus, and so the modern Christian not only outlaws the ways and religion of God, but now they make the whole bible unacceptable for reading.


If I was a lawless pagan Gentile, I would be saying the same thing,'' Don't read the bible, and especially, don't believe what Jesus says.''
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Old 08-17-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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I'm not discounting the existence of God. Maybe it's just not the Judeo Christian version or any other version humans know of. Some people speak of being spiritual without religious. Is that God without the Bible?
Nope. It's the Bible without God. Or the Koran. Or the Dhammapaddha. Or the Baghavad Gita. Etc etc etc. Without god.

And no, there is no evidence of a god or gods. Zero. Zilch. Nada. An underlying structure to the universe is not evidence of any sort of consciousness at all, let alone a "universal" consciousness attributable to "god".

Including a stone age "god" who allegedly cast his worshippers out to wander the desert thousands of years ago. The Jews are no closer to a non-existent "god" than any member of any other religion. It is all self-delusion, abused by a priest-class to keep the mob under control and themselves in power.
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Old 08-17-2018, 01:40 PM
 
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This question has been asked countless times. The truth is, there is significant evidence that God exists and the Bible is God's true record of Himself given to mankind: science, prophecy, archaeology, literature, claims, harmony, life-changing power, indestructibility and a host of mathematical and other proofs.

The truth, however, is that people believe what they are willing to believe and find reasons to reject or deny that which they are unwilling to believe. This is further complicated today by the replacement of consistent, reliable truth standards with 'relative truth, public approval, polls and a host of other worldly standards.'

Whether men believe and trust God, Christ and God's truth ... does not alter the
reality of His eternal power and deity, of which an inborn (self-evident) knowledge exists in every person. Of course, the latter is also a Biblical truth - which seems to automatically disqualify it in the minds of many.

On the other hand, if one simply ruled-out any and all related historical records, it would be difficult to prove much of anything from the past.

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Old 08-17-2018, 01:41 PM
 
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Anti-Christ came 100 years after Jesus, JUST EXACTLY how Daniel said he would come after the Messiah had died and gone his way, the anti-Christ comes, and we know him because of his lawlessness and his mission is specific in turning people away from the 7 feasts of God so they don't know how to walk.


Million upon millions of People accepted this Anti-Christ which they call Jesus, but their hands prove who they worship in their pagan worship system of Babylon which the whole world has always kept. This Messiah of Babylon has always been Tammuz, and where you find this name, you find the 666 because where you find both of these, you find people baking cakes to the queen of heaven, and celebrating the winter solstice.


The entire mission of Anti-Christ was to turn people away from the worship system of God, and now the world is so screwed up, that they actually believe that God's plan was to turn all people to pagan Gods, and why would this be God's plan?


God's plan was to add Gentiles to his people who keep his religion, and those people are GRAFTED AND ADOPTED INTO ISRAEL TO BECOME ONE PEOPLE WITH JEWS.


The world is so backwards that they think God's plan was to turn all Jews into lawless, pagan Gentiles.


WHOSE PLAN?


The world is so backwards that they think God's plan is to prove himself and his religion along with his son, WRONG.


WHOSE PLAN?


Is it really God's plan to do away with his own religion in order to prove his ways wrong, so that the world either kills all Jews, or assimilates all Jews into Pagan religions while forcing them to become Gentiles?


The plan has never been that the Jew become a Gentile, EVER.


But seeing how everyone has already proven God wrong, what is there left to say to a person advocating ignorance and lawlessness?


Jesus told us all about the lawless, and he told us all about how lawlessness would come, I just never expected it in such an overwhelming way......


If somebody has decided that they don't want to study, why should they advise other people not to study? There is overwhelming evidence that once a Gentile joins Judaism, he begins to study a religion that he didn't know nothing about.....


We are all born with a great deal of knowledge about the bible, but those people back then, they were in another religion and they didn't know anything about the religion of God, and the only thing asked of them was to study in order to understand. You can't be born again unless you study, THAT IS A FACT, and anyone who denies this, it is the same people who don't accept the7 missions of Christ, same lawless people who don't know the religion of Messiah.
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Old 08-17-2018, 02:11 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Yes, every test done at any level proves creation or as some like to say Intelligent Design (ID).


They wont teach that however.

The don't teach it for the same reason they don't teach the earth is flat -- because it's not true. It's a lie invented by self-serving fundies.


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Correct. Creation tells us there is a God and the Bible is His way of allowing us to come to know Him as a person and friend.

The bible god is a bumbling, psychotic narcissist and no friend of anyone with an smidgen of empathy or common sense.
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Old 08-17-2018, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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How far can you go without looking at the “map”?
Well, it depends on how stupid one is...
or
how distracted one gets and forgets what they just looked at
OR
if they have a lack of desire to ever reach the destination so they place obstacles in their way unconsciously so they won't get there for a very very long time.

The smart ones, with a big desire and focus to get to their destination...just do what is said ...
it's like a straight line, after all.


I think this answer should win a prize.
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