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Old 08-19-2018, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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Some of us have no need to provide "evidence" to anybody who demands evidence of another's faith. I have my framework within which I believe I have experienced God, both within and without the Christian tradition, but I have no evidence that will persuade you to believe as I do nor do I have any pressing need to try to get you to believe as I do. It is personal to me, and I only really share it with others who I know are open-minded enough to have the conversation.

AGAIN, I quote the Quakers: "I cannot tell you how to experience God. I can only know how I experience God."

IMO, the Bible consists of writings that are attempts by many people to try to define the undefinable. Value can be found in some of it if approached with that in mind, but the Bible is not any more evidence than anything else is.

Exactly this.
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Old 08-20-2018, 12:05 PM
 
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Some of us have no need to provide "evidence" to anybody who demands evidence of another's faith. I have my framework within which I believe I have experienced God, both within and without the Christian tradition, but I have no evidence that will persuade you to believe as I do nor do I have any pressing need to try to get you to believe as I do. It is personal to me, and I only really share it with others who I know are open-minded enough to have the conversation.

AGAIN, I quote the Quakers: "I cannot tell you how to experience God. I can only know how I experience God."

IMO, the Bible consists of writings that are attempts by many people to try to define the undefinable. Value can be found in some of it if approached with that in mind, but the Bible is not any more evidence than anything else is.
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Old 08-20-2018, 12:10 PM
 
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Some of us have no need to provide "evidence" to anybody who demands evidence of another's faith. I have my framework within which I believe I have experienced God, both within and without the Christian tradition, but I have no evidence that will persuade you to believe as I do nor do I have any pressing need to try to get you to believe as I do. It is personal to me, and I only really share it with others who I know are open-minded enough to have the conversation.

AGAIN, I quote the Quakers: "I cannot tell you how to experience God. I can only know how I experience God."

IMO, the Bible consists of writings that are attempts by many people to try to define the undefinable. Value can be found in some of it if approached with that in mind, but the Bible is not any more evidence than anything else is.
It would be neat to somehow have a non-threatening (concrete) evidence for Biblical-Christianity thread.
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Old 08-20-2018, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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It would be neat to somehow have a non-threatening (concrete) evidence for Biblical-Christianity thread.
Concrete evidence is a person to person thing, no matter what anyone says, they aren't going to prove God to anyone, it's what people can show in person.


I recently watched a Netflix deal with this Atheist doing miracles of God after he explained that he didn't believe in God, and he still walked around slaying people in the spirit, or hypnosis. He had everyone in the placed temporarily healed, and it all looked like miracles of God even after he told people what he was going to do, and they still passed out drunk like Benny Hinn just slapped them.......Really funny, and most evangelicals would call this proof of God along with anyone who believed in God viewing it. People think speaking in tongues is some kind of proof in God, but that only proves somebody can ramble off incoherently with no translation like I did for 40 years.


Proof of God is usually only done by an individual who is willing to test God and God can be tested, and he challenges anyone to test him.


The real proof of God is in the language in my opinion, and you can't explain a language to anyone over the internet, but I could explain it in person.
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:25 AM
 
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Concrete evidence is a person to person thing, no matter what anyone says, they aren't going to prove God to anyone, it's what people can show in person.


I recently watched a Netflix deal with this Atheist doing miracles of God after he explained that he didn't believe in God, and he still walked around slaying people in the spirit, or hypnosis. He had everyone in the placed temporarily healed, and it all looked like miracles of God even after he told people what he was going to do, and they still passed out drunk like Benny Hinn just slapped them.......Really funny, and most evangelicals would call this proof of God along with anyone who believed in God viewing it. People think speaking in tongues is some kind of proof in God, but that only proves somebody can ramble off incoherently with no translation like I did for 40 years.


Proof of God is usually only done by an individual who is willing to test God and God can be tested, and he challenges anyone to test him.


The real proof of God is in the language in my opinion, and you can't explain a language to anyone over the internet, but I could explain it in person.
I'm not wanting to prove God to anyone here... I'd just like to discuss the (concrete) evidence without offense.
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:36 AM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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I'm not wanting to prove God to anyone here... I'd just like to discuss the (concrete) evidence without offense.
What Concrete evidence?
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:40 AM
 
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What Concrete evidence?
Landmarks etc.
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:45 AM
 
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I'm not wanting to prove God to anyone here... I'd just like to discuss the (concrete) evidence without offense.
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What Concrete evidence?
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:53 AM
 
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Why are these post offensive to you and deserving of mocking, amelekite?
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:56 AM
 
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You donít mix your concrete correctly, it isnít curing.


You should try epoxy.
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