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Old 08-26-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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That is not how a Christian wife acts. Read the bible.

Adam didn't blame Eve, he told the truth to God Eve also told the truth to God.
He was blaming God: "It's the woman you gave me."
Now, that's a weak man who couldn't gird up his loins?
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Old 08-26-2018, 10:45 PM
 
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So you just ADDED words to "scripture?"

Deuteronomy 4:2
“You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take anything from it”

so essentially what Paul wrote is null &void and all his writings wee his persona opinion and have no relevance to the 21st century society, or any society for that matter.
That verse has to do with Torah...
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Old 08-27-2018, 12:25 PM
 
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He was blaming God: "It's the woman you gave me."
Now, that's a weak man who couldn't gird up his loins?
Indeed, the scriptures do record Adam blaming "that woman you gave me" for his sin. I thought everyone who considers him/herself to be "of the faith" had at least read that account

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Old 08-27-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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That verse has to do with Torah...
That is one interpretation, another is applying it to scripture so all is good..
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Old 08-27-2018, 12:43 PM
 
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Most women no longer do this. It's sad because men need it!
Men who are INSECURE and FEAR shadows and other things that go bump in the night need it...

Men with small hands and tiny minds and hateful hearts with orange faces...
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Old 08-27-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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Indeed, the scriptures do record Adam blaming "that woman you gave me" for his sin. I thought everyone who considers him/herself to be "of the faith" had at least read that account

Who said Adam sinned?
thats right, you just did.
Careful, that essentially implicates a eve of intentional wrong doing in a greater sense than what occurred.
Adam merely answered truthfully when questioned by the Lord, exactly as eve did so.
And yet neither of the two were cursed.
Actually instead they were no longer allowed to have access to the garden.
And the The ground along with the serpent was declared to be cursed. Even during all this, if you listen closely, you will hear the first promise.

it isnt till cain commits murder and is cursed that sin enters the world..
Something that is just as dangerous as cain or even more perilous even.
Imputing sin where there is none.

Like calling Yeshua cursed
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Old 08-27-2018, 02:11 PM
 
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1. In like manner, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, even if any obey not the word, they may without the word be gained by the behavior of their wives;

2. beholding your chaste behavior coupled with fear.

3. Whose adorning let it not be the outward adorning of braiding the hair, and of wearing jewels of gold, or of putting on apparel;

4. but let it be the hidden man of the heart, in the incorruptible apparel of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. (1 Peter 3)
Thankyou so much for Sharing Mikko.

You husbands, likewise, conduct your married lives with understanding. Although your wife may be weaker physically, you should respect her as a fellow-heir of the gift of Life. If you don’t, your prayers will be blocked.

8 Finally, all of you, be one in mind and feeling; love as brothers; and be compassionate and humble-minded, 9 not repaying evil with evil or insult with insult, but, on the contrary, with blessing. For it is to this that you have been called, so that you may receive a blessing. 10 For

“Whoever wants to love life and see good days
must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit,
11 turn from evil and do good,
seek peace and chase after it.
12 For Adonai keeps his eyes on the righteous,
and his ears are open to their prayers;
but the face of Adonai is against
those who do evil things.”[a]

13 For who will hurt you if you become zealots for what is good? 14 But even if you do suffer for being righteous, you are blessed! Moreover, don’t fear what they fear or be disturbed, 15 but treat the Messiah as holy, as Lord in your hearts;[b] while remaining always ready to give a reasoned answer to anyone who asks you to explain the hope you have in you — yet with humility and fear, 16 keeping your conscience clear, so that when you are spoken against, those who abuse the good behavior flowing from your union with the Messiah may be put to shame. 17 For if God has in fact willed that you should suffer, it is better that you suffer for doing what is good than for doing what is evil.

18 For the Messiah himself died for sins, once and for all, a righteous person on behalf of unrighteous people, so that he might bring you to God. He was put to death in the flesh but brought to life by the Spirit; 19 and in this form he went and made a proclamation to the imprisoned spirits, 20 to those who were disobedient long ago, in the days of Noach, when God waited patiently during the building of the ark, in which a few people — to be specific, eight — were delivered by means of water.
21 This also prefigures what delivers us now, the water of immersion, which is not the removal of dirt from the body, but one’s pledge to keep a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Yeshua the Messiah. 22 He has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God,[c] with angels, authorities and powers subject to him.


The salt of offering upon the altar is just as you might remember.
Be holy as the Lord is holy.

After such a gift is given, a person will find themselves near an Holy Entrance with a laver of water in front.
They may even see the bronze feet of five golden pillars shimmering through a sheer curtain of finely woven materials. If a persons heart is pure they may even see four women there seemingly in the curtain or perhaps behind.
It is difficult to make out in the fire light dancing on the curtains.
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Old 08-27-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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That is not how a Christian wife acts. Read the bible.

Adam didn't blame Eve, he told the truth to God Eve also told the truth to God.
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Originally Posted by Jerwade View Post
He was blaming God: "It's the woman you gave me."
Now, that's a weak man who couldn't gird up his loins?
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Indeed, the scriptures do record Adam blaming "that woman you gave me" for his sin. I thought everyone who considers him/herself to be "of the faith" had at least read that account

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Who said Adam sinned?
thats right, you just did.
Careful, that essentially implicates a eve of intentional wrong doing in a greater sense than what occurred.
Adam merely answered truthfully when questioned by the Lord, exactly as eve did so.
And yet neither of the two were cursed.
Actually instead they were no longer allowed to have access to the garden.
And the The ground along with the serpent was declared to be cursed. Even during all this, if you listen closely, you will hear the first promise.

it isnt till cain commits murder and is cursed that sin enters the world..
Something that is just as dangerous as cain or even more perilous even.
Imputing sin where there is none.

Like calling Yeshua cursed
Mankind has always played the blame-game, "it's the serpent" within that of their own nature.
It takes a person with integrity to take responsibility for their own thoughts, deeds and actions.
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Old 08-27-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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Who said Adam sinned?
thats right, you just did.
Careful, that essentially implicates a eve of intentional wrong doing in a greater sense than what occurred.
Adam merely answered truthfully when questioned by the Lord, exactly as eve did so.
And yet neither of the two were cursed.
Actually instead they were no longer allowed to have access to the garden.
And the The ground along with the serpent was declared to be cursed. Even during all this, if you listen closely, you will hear the first promise.

it isnt till cain commits murder and is cursed that sin enters the world..
Something that is just as dangerous as cain or even more perilous even.
Imputing sin where there is none.

Like calling Yeshua cursed
More rubbish from you. You are now teaching that Adam never sinned?

Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned.

But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man’s offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many.

For if by the one man’s offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ. Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous. (Romans 5:12, 15, 17–19)


Just as sin and death came through one man, Adam, it is also through one man, Jesus Christ, that grace and righteousness are given as free gifts to sinners. The naming of Christ as the Last Adam and the multiple comparisons of Adam to Christ would be invalid and nonsensical if original sin came through Eve. Also, it has been a heavy burden in this world to be born female and put up with the inequity men insist upon. Just because Cain was the first to commit murder, does not mean that Adam never sinned? How could Cain have been born a sinner except the the seed of sin was passed down through the father. Sin is not passed down through the seed of a woman.

Interestingly, although Eve was the first to disobey God's command, the solution to sin came through “her Seed” (Genesis 3:15). The Seed, Jesus Christ, was born of a virgin named Mary. He paid the price for sin and will redeem those who receive the salvation He offers.
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Old 08-27-2018, 03:38 PM
 
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Mankind has always played the blame-game, "it's the serpent" within that of their own nature.
It takes a person with integrity to take responsibility for their own thoughts, deeds and actions.
That sounds more like bi-polar disorder, a serious mental issue that can cause alot of pain to others when the person is not admitted to proper caretakers.

Seriously, there is nothing from the Word of the Lord teaching any such thing.
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